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Post by BigTed3 on Sept 15, 2023 1:43:18 GMT
sure seems like pk is not very well liked Like all players some are liked by others , some not . FWIW , cP31 spent his honeymoon with PK 😂 I think PK got along very well with Price and Markov . They invited him to their respective weddings . Not so sure about Plekanec and Gallagher. I recall a game after the Devils , BG11 whined that “ PK was being PK “ 🤦♂️ It's pretty well-documented who liked PK and who didn't... the likes of Price, Markov, Pacioretty, Weise, Galchenyuk, Gomez, Gill, and others have publicly supported PK. Others like Plekanec, Gallagher, and Eller have sided with the coaching staff, so Shaw is just one more guy on that side of the coin. As you said, some liked him, some didn't. I don't think he was hated as much as Therrien would make you believe. I think Therrien continuously calling him out just made it acceptable for players to do the same. It became part of the culture to hate on PK, and I think some players did it to suck up to the coach. I've said before that I don't know that I could personally be friends with PK off the ice with his big personality, but I sure as hell respected what he brought on the ice and I don't think he was a selfish player by any means. I thought he brought energy and effort every night and I felt like his goal on the ice was to make his team win. Conversely, guys like Domi or Shaw were more selfish players to me because they frequently lost their tempers and took bad penalties when they wanted personal vengeance. That's literally putting yourself before the good of the team. So meh, to each his own. I'd take PK on my team before Shaw any day of the week.
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Post by regis on Sept 15, 2023 14:27:59 GMT
Maybe Shaw took too many hits to the head.
He also criticized Beach ( of the Hawks ) for putting himself in a bad situation ( re the abuse scandal )
Shaw also got suspended and fined for using a gay slur
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Post by habulator on Sept 15, 2023 17:22:37 GMT
Like all players some are liked by others , some not . FWIW , cP31 spent his honeymoon with PK 😂 I think PK got along very well with Price and Markov . They invited him to their respective weddings . Not so sure about Plekanec and Gallagher. I recall a game after the Devils , BG11 whined that “ PK was being PK “ 🤦♂️ It's pretty well-documented who liked PK and who didn't... the likes of Price, Markov, Pacioretty, Weise, Galchenyuk, Gomez, Gill, and others have publicly supported PK. Others like Plekanec, Gallagher, and Eller have sided with the coaching staff, so Shaw is just one more guy on that side of the coin. As you said, some liked him, some didn't. I don't think he was hated as much as Therrien would make you believe. I think Therrien continuously calling him out just made it acceptable for players to do the same. It became part of the culture to hate on PK, and I think some players did it to suck up to the coach. I've said before that I don't know that I could personally be friends with PK off the ice with his big personality, but I sure as hell respected what he brought on the ice and I don't think he was a selfish player by any means. I thought he brought energy and effort every night and I felt like his goal on the ice was to make his team win. Conversely, guys like Domi or Shaw were more selfish players to me because they frequently lost their tempers and took bad penalties when they wanted personal vengeance. That's literally putting yourself before the good of the team. So meh, to each his own. I'd take PK on my team before Shaw any day of the week.
I don't think Patches was any great fan of Subban's. As Captain he might have said the right things, I've seen the video where you can see the real feelings. As well, if on a professional team the story gets out that one particular player is not well liked, you can be pretty much assured that more feel that way. JMO |
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Post by BigTed3 on Sept 15, 2023 20:57:37 GMT
It's pretty well-documented who liked PK and who didn't... the likes of Price, Markov, Pacioretty, Weise, Galchenyuk, Gomez, Gill, and others have publicly supported PK. Others like Plekanec, Gallagher, and Eller have sided with the coaching staff, so Shaw is just one more guy on that side of the coin. As you said, some liked him, some didn't. I don't think he was hated as much as Therrien would make you believe. I think Therrien continuously calling him out just made it acceptable for players to do the same. It became part of the culture to hate on PK, and I think some players did it to suck up to the coach. I've said before that I don't know that I could personally be friends with PK off the ice with his big personality, but I sure as hell respected what he brought on the ice and I don't think he was a selfish player by any means. I thought he brought energy and effort every night and I felt like his goal on the ice was to make his team win. Conversely, guys like Domi or Shaw were more selfish players to me because they frequently lost their tempers and took bad penalties when they wanted personal vengeance. That's literally putting yourself before the good of the team. So meh, to each his own. I'd take PK on my team before Shaw any day of the week.
I don't think Patches was any great fan of Subban's. As Captain he might have said the right things, I've seen the video where you can see the real feelings. As well, if on a professional team the story gets out that one particular player is not well liked, you can be pretty much assured that more feel that way. JMO Yes, we know some players disliked Subban (Plekanec, Gallagher, Shaw...). But there has also been a lot of exaggeration in the media about this and Pacioretty is one of those cases. Pacioretty invited Subban to his wedding (one of only two Habs who were known to have gone) and he's said that Subban would play with his kids too. Even if you secretly disliked someone and just tried to save face in the media, why invite the guy to your wedding and not invite any of the players people think you liked? That makes zero sense. I suspect based on what we know that PK had a handful of players who didn't like his personality but more that got along with him or just didn't care one way or the other and recognized he was an asset to the team regardless.
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Post by maasart on Sept 15, 2023 21:16:01 GMT
I don't think Patches was any great fan of Subban's. As Captain he might have said the right things, I've seen the video where you can see the real feelings. As well, if on a professional team the story gets out that one particular player is not well liked, you can be pretty much assured that more feel that way. JMO Yes, we know some players disliked Subban (Plekanec, Gallagher, Shaw...). But there has also been a lot of exaggeration in the media about this and Pacioretty is one of those cases. Pacioretty invited Subban to his wedding (one of only two Habs who were known to have gone) and he's said that Subban would play with his kids too. Even if you secretly disliked someone and just tried to save face in the media, why invite the guy to your wedding and not invite any of the players people think you liked? That makes zero sense. I suspect based on what we know that PK had a handful of players who didn't like his personality but more that got along with him or just didn't care one way or the other and recognized he was an asset to the team regardless. Agree. and some of it blew up after he was gone. Gallagher, for example, was always professional when Subban was a Canadien. He didnt start saying - frankly, petty - things about him until after he was with the predators. He may have disliked him while he was here but never was vocal/public about it. |
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Post by electron58 on Sept 16, 2023 2:11:23 GMT
Yes, we know some players disliked Subban (Plekanec, Gallagher, Shaw...). But there has also been a lot of exaggeration in the media about this and Pacioretty is one of those cases. Pacioretty invited Subban to his wedding (one of only two Habs who were known to have gone) and he's said that Subban would play with his kids too. Even if you secretly disliked someone and just tried to save face in the media, why invite the guy to your wedding and not invite any of the players people think you liked? That makes zero sense. I suspect based on what we know that PK had a handful of players who didn't like his personality but more that got along with him or just didn't care one way or the other and recognized he was an asset to the team regardless. Agree. and some of it blew up after he was gone. Gallagher, for example, was always professional when Subban was a Canadien. He didnt start saying - frankly, petty - things about him until after he was with the predators. He may have disliked him while he was here but never was vocal/public about it. Actually, if I remember correctly, Gallagher was anything but professional towards PK. There are some articles out there, that dig a little deeper. |
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Post by regis on Sept 20, 2023 15:12:24 GMT
Paul Byron officially retires .
Thank you for that beauty short handed goal against the Leafs
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Post by joehabsjoe on Sept 26, 2023 14:09:55 GMT
The Washington Capitals have shared that defender Joel Edmundson will not partake in the team’s daily activities, following an injury he suffered during a scrimmage.
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Post by regis on Sept 26, 2023 14:43:12 GMT
The Washington Capitals have shared that defender Joel Edmundson will not partake in the team’s daily activities, following an injury he suffered during a scrimmage.
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Post by ramcharger440 on Sept 26, 2023 20:06:44 GMT
Eddy made of glass!
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Post by selteeck on Sept 26, 2023 20:15:54 GMT
Can we now place his retained salary on LTIR?  |
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Post by maasart on Sept 26, 2023 21:03:26 GMT
Can we now place his retained salary on LTIR? Nope. The team that trades the player & retains salary is on the hook for it, regardless of his health status. |
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Post by selteeck on Sept 26, 2023 21:10:49 GMT
Can we now place his retained salary on LTIR? Nope. The team that trades the player & retains salary is on the hook for it, regardless of his health status. yeah, i know, i was kidding, just glad we got rid of him |
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Post by maasart on Sept 26, 2023 21:20:39 GMT
Nope. The team that trades the player & retains salary is on the hook for it, regardless of his health status. yeah, i know, i was kidding, just glad we got rid of him Ah ok. I have heard people ask. It would be nice. imagine if you retained 50% salary on a guy for 4 years and then he had a career ending injury! I mean, i know - you agreed to retain that regardless, but would be tougher to swallow if he wasnt even playing. |
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Post by selteeck on Sept 26, 2023 21:35:39 GMT
yeah, i know, i was kidding, just glad we got rid of him Ah ok. I have heard people ask. It would be nice. imagine if you retained 50% salary on a guy for 4 years and then he had a career ending injury! I mean, i know - you agreed to retain that regardless, but would be tougher to swallow if he wasnt even playing. kinda Ekman-Larsson's buyout for 'Yotes |
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Post by joehabsjoe on Sept 28, 2023 19:26:39 GMT
Rem Pitlick on waivers today.
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Post by regis on Sept 28, 2023 20:31:40 GMT
Rem Pitlick on waivers today. He seemed like a good guy . No drama . But he wanted out . |
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Post by rkgoalie on Oct 3, 2023 20:55:38 GMT
not a world of a lie, i was renewing my drivers licence this morning in kelowna bc, who do i see waiting in line, carey price, i had to go up to him and very discreetly shake his hand ,i had my habs baseball cap on so he knew i was a fan, i whispered thanks for all those great years,would love to add more to the story but i would be lying
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Post by HTL on Oct 3, 2023 22:28:34 GMT
not a world of a lie, i was renewing my drivers licence this morning in kelowna bc, who do i see waiting in line, carey price, i had to go up to him and very discreetly shake his hand ,i had my habs baseball cap on so he knew i was a fan, i whispered thanks for all those great years,would love to add more to the story but i would be lying That's awesome. |
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Post by ramcharger440 on Oct 4, 2023 1:54:32 GMT
not a world of a lie, i was renewing my drivers licence this morning in kelowna bc, who do i see waiting in line, carey price, i had to go up to him and very discreetly shake his hand ,i had my habs baseball cap on so he knew i was a fan, i whispered thanks for all those great years,would love to add more to the story but i would be lying Nice! |
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