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Post by regis on Aug 11, 2024 15:56:47 GMT
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Post by regis on Aug 12, 2024 16:00:23 GMT
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Post by maasart on Aug 12, 2024 19:55:03 GMT
yeah, Savard, Harris & Evans all make some sense & likely at least 2 of them will be moved but i agree, its odd he didnt mention Dvo & possibly guys like Gallagher & Anderson (those guys probably have less interest league-wide though). I think at least one of our Dmen & possiibly Dvo will be traded before the season starts, tbh. I also think there's a chance Struble gets traded instead of Harris if the return is better. |
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Post by regis on Aug 13, 2024 13:58:00 GMT
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Post by regis on Aug 17, 2024 18:20:02 GMT
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Post by regis on Aug 18, 2024 18:22:20 GMT
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Post by jenniferrocket on Aug 20, 2024 12:30:26 GMT
Do you think there's a chance Hughes goes after Yaroslav Askarov from Nashville? I still feel like goaltending is a position of need for this team. I don't think Montembeault or Primeau are going to take us to the promised land. Jakub Dobes doesn't seem too promising down in Laval. I know Jacob Fowler is a hopeful prospect, but he's quite young, hasn't turned pro, and might end up being no better than Primeau when he makes it to Laval.
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Post by claremont on Aug 20, 2024 16:39:12 GMT
Do you think there's a chance Hughes goes after Yaroslav Askarov from Nashville? I still feel like goaltending is a position of need for this team. I don't think Montembeault or Primeau are going to take us to the promised land. Jakub Dobes doesn't seem too promising down in Laval. I know Jacob Fowler is a hopeful prospect, but he's quite young, hasn't turned pro, and might end up being no better than Primeau when he makes it to Laval. I posted my comment on this earlier in the around the league thread. I would support going after Askarov to a certain price / cost. Having tope of the line goalies like Boston had, is a good thing. |
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Post by maasart on Aug 20, 2024 18:10:24 GMT
Do you think there's a chance Hughes goes after Yaroslav Askarov from Nashville? I still feel like goaltending is a position of need for this team. I don't think Montembeault or Primeau are going to take us to the promised land. Jakub Dobes doesn't seem too promising down in Laval. I know Jacob Fowler is a hopeful prospect, but he's quite young, hasn't turned pro, and might end up being no better than Primeau when he makes it to Laval. I posted my comment on this earlier in the around the league thread. I would support going after Askarov to a certain price / cost. Having tope of the line goalies like Boston had, is a good thing. Goaltending is such a crap shoot. I think the team is more likely to try to acquire goalies for a very low cost (like how we got Monty) and see what works out rather than trading for one. I mean even high end goalies, when they've been traded are often not the same player on their new team. I dont disagree with your assessment of our 'tenders but i do think the team will hold tight for now. |
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Post by regis on Aug 23, 2024 16:38:54 GMT
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Post by ramcharger440 on Aug 23, 2024 16:42:52 GMT
I don't know if we ''need'' to move him as much as we should move him to free up space in the roster and gain back some cap room. Question is what could we get for him? |
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Post by maasart on Aug 23, 2024 17:09:48 GMT
If we run Suzuki - Dach - Newhook as our top 3 which I assume we will (we might move newhook back to wing but i doubt it) then we have 1 space for Dvo, Evan and Beck who is going to be pushing hard for a roster spot & already plays a very mature game. Obviously Evans and/or Dvo could always move to wing. Either would be better than guys like Pez so its not like we couldnt make room for them & make our roster better but if there's actually value out there in a trade, you have to consider it. Id, frankly, be surprised if both Dvo and Evans were here to finish the year & im not convinced they'll both be habs at the start of the season. |
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Post by claremont on Aug 23, 2024 17:16:50 GMT
I don't know if we ''need'' to move him as much as we should move him to free up space in the roster and gain back some cap room. Question is what could we get for him? It is a timing thing for me. Selling Dvorak now would be trading him at low value given his injury season last year. In accordance with the team culture, I would think that Dvo "deserves" a chance to rebound and prove his value to other teams as a basis for a contract offer or extension. Figure he is traded at the deadline for something vs letting him go to UFA for nothing. A few other factors 1) Who is the team's 2nd line centre - is it Dach or is he better suited to the wing given he hasn't proved he is solid on winning face-offs. Is it Newhook? 2) One has to figure Own Beck will be ready for a centre role at some point - IMO likely more logical that he replaces Jake Evans 3) Does Jake Evans in a trade get you more value than DVO 4) What are the UFA alternatives to extending DVO - the devil you know vs one you don't know (Sidney, Tavares etc.) - We all project Michael Hage to be likely NHL ready after this year plus 2 more years of NCAA. Unlikely DVO takes a 2 year term contract - maybe 3 while Hage sits one more year in the AHL 5) Who are the young centre prospects on other teams worth trading for? |
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Post by regis on Aug 23, 2024 19:13:01 GMT
^^
He’s an UFA at the end of this year , was hurt most of last year , sure it would be nice if they could move him but he’s not exactly very enticing to another team to start the year . Maybe as we get closer to trade deadline , if he shows he’s still got something . But I m not expecting a big haul back
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Post by BigTed3 on Aug 24, 2024 2:21:48 GMT
With the Laine trade, one of the major upsides here is that the Habs have acquired a player with potential star-level production AND a former top 5 draft choice. I've said many times that to win, you need those types of players with strong pedigrees and elite output. Most of the Cup winners have players who fit that profile. With Laine, the Habs now have a plethora of former top 5 picks or recent top 5 picks who are coming:
- Laine
- Dach
- Slafkovsky
- Reinbacher
- Demidov
They also have some stars or potential stars outside the top 5 in Suzuki, Caufield, and Hutson. So suddenly, this line-up is starting to look like ones that win Cups. It'll take a couple of years for the Reinbacher's, Hutson's, and Demidov's to establish themselves (which is why the Laine addition still doesn't clearly help the window), but it's evident that HuGo understands how you build a winner... from the draft and with elite talent.
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Post by maasart on Aug 24, 2024 2:58:00 GMT
With the Laine trade, one of the major upsides here is that the Habs have acquired a player with potential star-level production AND a former top 5 draft choice. I've said many times that to win, you need those types of players with strong pedigrees and elite output. Most of the Cup winners have players who fit that profile. With Laine, the Habs now have a plethora of former top 5 picks or recent top 5 picks who are coming: - Laine - Dach - Slafkovsky - Reinbacher - Demidov They also have some stars or potential stars outside the top 5 in Suzuki, Caufield, and Hutson. So suddenly, this line-up is starting to look like ones that win Cups. It'll take a couple of years for the Reinbacher's, Hutson's, and Demidov's to establish themselves (which is why the Laine addition still doesn't clearly help the window), but it's evident that HuGo understands how you build a winner... from the draft and with elite talent. I still love Bergevin's quote "This isnt playstation, you cant build your team like that" and here's Hughes just saying "hold my beer." |
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Post by BigTed3 on Aug 24, 2024 14:40:33 GMT
With the Laine trade, one of the major upsides here is that the Habs have acquired a player with potential star-level production AND a former top 5 draft choice. I've said many times that to win, you need those types of players with strong pedigrees and elite output. Most of the Cup winners have players who fit that profile. With Laine, the Habs now have a plethora of former top 5 picks or recent top 5 picks who are coming: - Laine - Dach - Slafkovsky - Reinbacher - Demidov They also have some stars or potential stars outside the top 5 in Suzuki, Caufield, and Hutson. So suddenly, this line-up is starting to look like ones that win Cups. It'll take a couple of years for the Reinbacher's, Hutson's, and Demidov's to establish themselves (which is why the Laine addition still doesn't clearly help the window), but it's evident that HuGo understands how you build a winner... from the draft and with elite talent. I still love Bergevin's quote "This isnt playstation, you cant build your team like that" and here's Hughes just saying "hold my beer." The more we see HuGo work, the more it reinforces my longstanding opinion that Bergevin was a complete idiot at managing a hockey club.
The more we see of MSL, the more it reinforces the notion that Therrien was a fool and an utterly awful human being.
The current Habs management group is showing that you can be smart and modern and still be humane and kind to your employees. It's very refreshing. I really believe this might be the best combination of coach/GM/management we've had that I can remember. I've heard some say best since Serge Savard, but I also think it was a lot easier to be GM of the Canadiens 40, 50, or 60 years ago... fewer teams, easier to win, no salary cap, lots more players who wanted to play for the Habs, lots more stars from Quebec, fewer international players to know about and scout, no one tracking your mistakes on the internet and social media, etc. It's a much harder world to navigate now. I don't think Savard would succeed in today's NHL, whereas I think Hughes might still have survived in the 80s.
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Post by RCAF48 on Aug 24, 2024 16:55:06 GMT
Yeah, "everything was easier in the old days" is certainly the explanation given by craft beer drinkers for their lack of success while the opposite argument can be heard every morning from the coffee drinkers at the corner table in Tim Hortons.
HU/GO/MSL do have the best media team & skills of any Canadiens management that I can remember but I am still on the fence on whether they are as good at the hockey thing as Selke/Irwin or Pollock/Bowman................yeah, I'm a coffee drinker.
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Post by regis on Aug 26, 2024 14:16:59 GMT
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Post by maasart on Aug 26, 2024 16:35:55 GMT
Imagine being offered contracts from 2 teams while you work at Costco & making them wait because you want your favourite team to call. This kid is a lifer. He'll be here for a while i think. |
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