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Post by BigTed3 on Jul 30, 2023 23:35:57 GMT
For players in the system...
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Post by electron58 on Jul 31, 2023 13:07:21 GMT
I was kind of hoping that the Habs would sign Max Comtois to a 2 way NHL contract. It could be a low risk high reward type of signing. Big winger local product. Take a chance on some size, I say.
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Post by HTL on Aug 2, 2023 15:54:09 GMT
I'd be interested in hearing members opinions of whom they would rate as our TOP 5 PROSPECTS not currently on the roster.
Based on what i've read, my top 5 would be,,,
1. Lane Hutson 2. Owen Beck 3. Emil Heineman 4. Logan Mailloux 5. David Reinbacher
Honarable mention to Roy, Farrell, Kidney
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Post by electron58 on Aug 2, 2023 22:21:46 GMT
I'd be interested in hearing members opinions of whom they would rate as our TOP 5 PROSPECTS not currently on the roster. Based on what i've read, my top 5 would be,,, 1. Lane Hutson 2. Owen Beck 3. Emil Heineman 4. Logan Mailloux 5. David Reinbacher Honarable mention to Roy, Farrell, Kidney Can't really argue with those choices! I think that I would have to add in Engstrom, somewhere in there, tbh.
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Post by BigTed3 on Aug 2, 2023 23:58:12 GMT
I'd be interested in hearing members opinions of whom they would rate as our TOP 5 PROSPECTS not currently on the roster. Based on what i've read, my top 5 would be,,, 1. Lane Hutson 2. Owen Beck 3. Emil Heineman 4. Logan Mailloux 5. David Reinbacher Honarable mention to Roy, Farrell, Kidney I'll rank them by highest ceiling because my personal view is that this is what makes the best prospect. Doesn't do much for me to find middle of the road players. So with that in mind 1. Hutson 2. Reinbacher 3. Mailloux 4. Engstrom 5. Heineman and next 5 would be 6. Beck 7. Roy 8. Mesar 9. Dobes 10. Tuch My honorable mentions would be Kapanen and Nurmi and my special mentions would be Simoneau, Andersson, and Davidson, who I don't see as having high ceilings but who could all play in the NHL the way guys like Lapierre, Evans, RHP, etc. have done.
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Post by habsology on Aug 3, 2023 14:54:29 GMT
I'd be interested in hearing members opinions of whom they would rate as our TOP 5 PROSPECTS not currently on the roster. Based on what i've read, my top 5 would be,,, 1. Lane Hutson 2. Owen Beck 3. Emil Heineman 4. Logan Mailloux 5. David Reinbacher Honarable mention to Roy, Farrell, Kidney Here's mine: 1. Lane Hutson 2. David Reinbacher 3. Owen Beck 4. Filip Mesar (I know others may not be as high on him, but I still believe in him) 5. Adam Engstrom
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Post by RCAF48 on Aug 3, 2023 17:39:09 GMT
IMO our top 5 prospects in the summer of 2023 are:
1. Reinbacher 2. Hutson 3. Beck 4. Heineman 5. Roy
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Post by BigTed3 on Aug 3, 2023 22:49:16 GMT
Important to distinguish the question above from the question of who your favorite prospects are or how likely they are to play in the NHL and become a regular. A guy like Beck almost certainly plays in the NHL, but his ceiling is probably closer to a Philip Danault, whereas a Heineman could become a 30+ goal scorer if he hits. Beck will be useful even if he doesn't hit his ceiling though, whereas if Heineman isn't scoring goals, there's less there to let him stick. If he plays well, he could be a Brian Savage or an Anthony Duclair, but his odds of hitting his ceiling are lower than that of a Beck for example. Likewise, a guy like Reinbacher is more likely to be a top 3 D man than Hutson but probably less likely to be a true \#1 D man and PP quarterback and put up points. So you can view this in different ways, and as I said, my own personal view was to think about the players' top end potential.
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Post by maasart on Aug 3, 2023 23:53:49 GMT
I'd be interested in hearing members opinions of whom they would rate as our TOP 5 PROSPECTS not currently on the roster. Based on what i've read, my top 5 would be,,, 1. Lane Hutson 2. Owen Beck 3. Emil Heineman 4. Logan Mailloux 5. David Reinbacher Honarable mention to Roy, Farrell, Kidney Assuming that a guy like Slaf, for example, doesnt start in Laval, my top prospects are: - Hutson (I would think he's #1 on just about everyone's list) - Reinbacher (I have a sneaking suspicion he's going to be the best dman out of the last 2 drafts) - Joshua Roy (I know, he may not pan out but i *really* want this kid to prove the doubters wrong) - Heinemann (I think he's going to be amazing in a year or two) - Beck (I still am not sure if he's a #2 or a #3 but i think he'll be a solid centre for this team for years) Id give honorable mentions to Mailloux (who could still be our 2nd best RHD), Mesar (who regressed a little bit last year but i still think has potential to be high end), Kidney (who i am a little iffy on but i sure hope he proves me wrong) and a few guys like Rohrer and newly-drafted Fowler.
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Post by electron58 on Aug 14, 2023 5:06:30 GMT
Must have missed this, but, glad to see Davidson signed. Rocket agree to terms on a one-year, one-way AHL contract with forwards Jared Davidson and Jakov Novak.
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Post by electron58 on Aug 18, 2023 3:35:40 GMT
Just read this............Rumour has it that Norlinder is staying in Sweden. Anybody confirm?
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Post by electron58 on Aug 18, 2023 4:12:29 GMT
For those looking for a quick fix......................(I'm sure many have already watched, but........for those that haven't?) Notice the effortlessness by Joshua Roy on the shootout. www.youtube.com/live/Ahc_x3tovHw?feature=share(from habseyesontheprize comments section)
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Post by electron58 on Aug 18, 2023 5:43:15 GMT
I'd be interested in hearing members opinions of whom they would rate as our TOP 5 PROSPECTS not currently on the roster. Based on what I've read, my top 5 would be,,, 1. Lane Hutson 2. Owen Beck 3. Emil Heineman 4. Logan Mailloux 5. David Reinbacher Honorable mention to Roy, Farrell, Kidney. Can't really argue with those choices! I think that I would have to add in Engström, somewhere in there, tbh. Engström's first 2 games in the 2023 WJC. (a good watch) youtu.be/L3FTIPJnmbo(from habseyesontheprize comments section)
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Post by claremont on Aug 19, 2023 23:28:15 GMT
Just read this............Rumour has it that Norlinder is staying in Sweden. Anybody confirm? It was announced on another feed BigTed was very high on him, but looks like Mattias,s confidence is shot or he’s overwhelmed by some of our emerging LHD depth with Struble, Trudeau , Hutson and Engstrom on the horizon and Matheson , Guhle, Harris, and Xhekaj ahead of him on the depth chart. Needs ice time or a change of scenery to rejuvenate himself
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Post by electron58 on Aug 20, 2023 2:36:16 GMT
Just read this............Rumour has it that Norlinder is staying in Sweden. Anybody confirm? It was announced on another feed BigTed was very high on him, but looks like Mattias,s confidence is shot or he’s overwhelmed by some of our emerging LHD depth with Struble, Trudeau , Hutson and Engstrom on the horizon and Matheson , Guhle, Harris, and Xhekaj ahead of him on the depth chart. Needs ice time or a change of scenery to rejuvenate himself Too bad we couldn't have used him as a throw in, in a bigger trade.
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Post by electron58 on Aug 20, 2023 15:59:49 GMT
Just read this............Rumour has it that Norlinder is staying in Sweden. Anybody confirm? It was announced on another feed BigTed was very high on him, but looks like Mattias,s confidence is shot or he’s overwhelmed by some of our emerging LHD depth with Struble, Trudeau , Hutson and Engstrom on the horizon and Matheson , Guhle, Harris, and Xhekaj ahead of him on the depth chart. Needs ice time or a change of scenery to rejuvenate himself thehockeywriters.com/canadiens-prospect-depth-sends-norlinder-europe/
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Post by BigTed3 on Aug 24, 2023 0:09:53 GMT
Corey Pronman is releasing his list of top farm systems in the NHL (in terms of best quality prospect pool). He's up to #9 so far without the Habs having popped up, so according to Pronman, we have a top-8 prospect pool. We'll see where we get to with this. The issue for the Habs is that they have a fair amount of prospect depth but lack true top-end prospects.
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Post by maasart on Aug 24, 2023 1:25:58 GMT
Corey Pronman is releasing his list of top farm systems in the NHL (in terms of best quality prospect pool). He's up to #9 so far without the Habs having popped up, so according to Pronman, we have a top-8 prospect pool. We'll see where we get to with this. The issue for the Habs is that they have a fair amount of prospect depth but lack true top-end prospects. i think he said #2 last update this summer but presumably this is a more indepth analysis.
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Post by maasart on Aug 24, 2023 14:21:15 GMT
Jared Book (From HEOTP, whose opinion i always value) on Reinbacher:
From the time he got drafted, people started lamenting what he wasn't... He wasn't Michkov, he wasn't Benson, he wasn't Leonard, he wasn't Dvorsky, etc... He wasn't a true #1, he wasn't a Cale Makar, he wasn't, he wasn't...
Lost in all of it is what he was, which is the best defenceman in the draft, and someone who has some of the most runway to improve even more. Much like Slafkovský, the Canadiens made the choice to get the player they think will be the best in 5 years, not the player that is best right now. Just because he has a high floor, doesn't mean he has a low ceiling. There's plenty of room for improvement in his game.
The rebuild doesn't necessarily depend on those two players, but it surely will be easier if they become what the Canadiens think they can become.
Also worth noting, with the Nemec vs Reinbacher debate from yesterday that Elite Prospects had Reinbacher ahead of Nemec in their prospect rankings.
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Post by claremont on Aug 24, 2023 15:56:03 GMT
Jared Book (From HEOTP, whose opinion i always value) on Reinbacher: From the time he got drafted, people started lamenting what he wasn't... He wasn't Michkov, he wasn't Benson, he wasn't Leonard, he wasn't Dvorsky, etc... He wasn't a true #1, he wasn't a Cale Makar, he wasn't, he wasn't...
Lost in all of it is what he was, which is the best defenceman in the draft, and someone who has some of the most runway to improve even more. Much like Slafkovský, the Canadiens made the choice to get the player they think will be the best in 5 years, not the player that is best right now. Just because he has a high floor, doesn't mean he has a low ceiling. There's plenty of room for improvement in his game.
The rebuild doesn't necessarily depend on those two players, but it surely will be easier if they become what the Canadiens think they can become.
Also worth noting, with the Nemec vs Reinbacher debate from yesterday that Elite Prospects had Reinbacher ahead of Nemec in their prospect rankings.Very interesting reflection that I hope cools the heels of some that wanted Michkov (inside sources tell me that he has some character concerns). First perhaps this comment is a little over zealous, and we have to be careful of falling into the trap, of overrating our prospects, but I would add a couple of thoughts. 1) Nemec did have a superb first year in the AHL with the Utica Comets. No question he has ascended and proven himself in his post-draft year. It remains to be seen whether Reinbacher will have such an ascension. 2) The Swiss League to the best of my knowledge is rated on par with the Czech Extraliga, both of which seem to be higher than the Slovak Extraliga. Slafkovsky went to Finland to be noticed more vs. Nemec stayed in Slovakia. You might argue that Reinbacher had tougher competition as did Slaf in their development leagues. So maybe I understand the admiration for Reinbacher to date, but Nemec seems to have proven himself much more so far, but it will be interesting to see what happens when Reinbacher plays with much better teammates.
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