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Post by maasart on Aug 24, 2023 16:01:56 GMT
Jared Book (From HEOTP, whose opinion i always value) on Reinbacher: From the time he got drafted, people started lamenting what he wasn't... He wasn't Michkov, he wasn't Benson, he wasn't Leonard, he wasn't Dvorsky, etc... He wasn't a true #1, he wasn't a Cale Makar, he wasn't, he wasn't...
Lost in all of it is what he was, which is the best defenceman in the draft, and someone who has some of the most runway to improve even more. Much like Slafkovský, the Canadiens made the choice to get the player they think will be the best in 5 years, not the player that is best right now. Just because he has a high floor, doesn't mean he has a low ceiling. There's plenty of room for improvement in his game.
The rebuild doesn't necessarily depend on those two players, but it surely will be easier if they become what the Canadiens think they can become.
Also worth noting, with the Nemec vs Reinbacher debate from yesterday that Elite Prospects had Reinbacher ahead of Nemec in their prospect rankings.Very interesting reflection that I hope cools the heels of some that wanted Michkov (inside sources tell me that he has some character concerns). First perhaps this comment is a little over zealous, and we have to be careful of falling into the trap, of overrating our prospects, but I would add a couple of thoughts. 1) Nemec did have a superb first year in the AHL with the Utica Comets. No question he has ascended and proven himself in his post-draft year. It remains to be seen whether Reinbacher will have such an ascension. 2) The Swiss League to the best of my knowledge is rated on par with the Czech Extraliga, both of which seem to be higher than the Slovak Extraliga. Slafkovsky went to Finland to be noticed more vs. Nemec stayed in Slovakia. You might argue that Reinbacher had tougher competition as did Slaf in their development leagues. So maybe I understand the admiration for Reinbacher to date, but Nemec seems to have proven himself much more so far, but it will be interesting to see what happens when Reinbacher plays with much better teammates. For sure. Expectation has to be tempered, but I would call Jared Book a pretty level headed analyst - and white a knowledgeable source on prospects - so this is a really positive report from him.
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Post by electron58 on Aug 25, 2023 19:14:19 GMT
It has been reported that defenseman Madison Bowey, who was previously with the Montreal Canadiens organization and played the entire season with the Laval Rocket, has agreed to a deal today with Dinamo Minsk in the KHL.
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Post by electron58 on Sept 8, 2023 15:03:47 GMT
Kevin Poulin, has announced his retirement.
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Post by regis on Sept 8, 2023 16:03:38 GMT
It has been reported that defenseman Madison Bowey, who was previously with the Montreal Canadiens organization and played the entire season with the Laval Rocket, has agreed to a deal today with Dinamo Minsk in the KHL. Interesting - 🤔 what reasons would a player have for wanting to play in Russia - ?
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Post by ramcharger440 on Sept 8, 2023 17:09:28 GMT
Money.
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Post by claremont on Sept 8, 2023 22:02:01 GMT
It has been reported that defenseman Madison Bowey, who was previously with the Montreal Canadiens organization and played the entire season with the Laval Rocket, has agreed to a deal today with Dinamo Minsk in the KHL. Interesting - 🤔 what reasons would a player have for wanting to play in Russia - ? Exactly $ - they often pay their salaries and bonuses in off shore accounts - The money is quite lucrative after tax and I have direct knowledge on that
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Post by regis on Sept 9, 2023 2:55:22 GMT
I knew the answer would be “ money “ . I guess I’m naive. Id like to think that with all that’s going on in the world people would think twice
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Post by HTL on Sept 9, 2023 19:39:55 GMT
I knew the answer would be “ money “ . I guess I’m naive. Id like to think that with all that’s going on in the world people would think twice It's also possible he couldn't find a team that wanted him here at home.
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Post by electron58 on Sept 11, 2023 4:25:14 GMT
IMO our top 5 prospects in the summer of 2023 are: 1. Reinbacher 2. Hutson 3. Beck 4. Heineman 5. RoyDraft +1 year. (Joshua Roy's goals from 2021-22) youtu.be/gBjkB4g6nmo
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Post by electron58 on Sept 16, 2023 1:08:56 GMT
Just tuned in, looks like the baby Habs are down 5-3 with 13 minutes left in 3rd. Presently, 4 clowns are struggling to put a pane of glass back in place. Not sure how long the delay is/was, but they're really struggling. Probably not their day job.
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Post by ramcharger440 on Sept 16, 2023 1:24:18 GMT
Watched a good bit of the game Farrel looked awful to me Reinbacher looked good on the PP The rest of the team was kind of all over the place! lots of new faces that don't know each other so I am willing to cut them some slack. LOL!
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Post by electron58 on Sept 16, 2023 1:41:30 GMT
Just tuned in, looks like the baby Habs are down 5-3 with 13 minutes left in 3rd. Presently, 4 clowns are struggling to put a pane of glass back in place. Not sure how long the delay is/was, but they're really struggling. Probably not their day job. Well, there's 13 minutes of my time that I'll never get back. Mind you, I only seen 13 minutes, so those of you that were (un)lucky to see the whole game, hopefully will have a more positive review. From what I saw, Jakob Dobes was probably the Habs best player, as he was tested often in those last 13 minutes. I didn't see Beck win any faceoffs and no one skater stood out. Hope someone can paint a better picture?
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Post by claremont on Sept 16, 2023 20:00:56 GMT
Just tuned in, looks like the baby Habs are down 5-3 with 13 minutes left in 3rd. Presently, 4 clowns are struggling to put a pane of glass back in place. Not sure how long the delay is/was, but they're really struggling. Probably not their day job. Well, there's 13 minutes of my time that I'll never get back. Mind you, I only seen 13 minutes, so those of you that were (un)lucky to see the whole game, hopefully will have a more positive review. From what I saw, Jakob Dobes was probably the Habs best player, as he was tested often in those last 13 minutes. I didn't see Beck win any faceoffs and no one skater stood out. Hope someone can paint a better picture? I saw a few flashes of promise from Reinbacher- skates well for a big kid. Trudeau stood out on the D. Heineman had some good shifts and puck control on the PP- otherwise nothing special Watching the Bruins - Habs first period - Mailloux just moved past 2 bruins at the 17 minute mark for a breakaway from the neutral zone - he doesn’t score but showed some really good wheels!
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Post by claremont on Sept 18, 2023 23:15:50 GMT
Caught a few minutes of the Ottawa Habs prospects game for a couple of periods. Small sample and not high level competition but 1) Reinbacher doesn’t look out of place 2) Mesar - he has some good moves and ability to find open space - good vision on a couple of power plays but is that misleadingly? Are power play players a dime a dozen? TBD 3) mailloux Struble will be a pairing to watch in Laval - Mailloux has good offense like we have stated but his defensive awareness will be something to watch
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Post by maasart on Sept 19, 2023 1:39:26 GMT
Caught a few minutes of the Ottawa Habs prospects game for a couple of periods. Small sample and not high level competition but 1) Reinbacher doesn’t look out of place 2) Mesar - he has some good moves and ability to find open space - good vision on a couple of power plays but is that misleadingly? Are power play players a dime a dozen? TBD 3) mailloux Struble will be a pairing to watch in Laval - Mailloux has good offense like we have stated but his defensive awareness will be something to watch Was Mesar at centre? Ive noticed they've been playing him alternating centre & wing... wonder what the long term plan there is...
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Post by claremont on Sept 19, 2023 20:40:08 GMT
Was Mesar at centre? Ive noticed they've been playing him alternating centre & wing... wonder what the long term plan there is... I saw Mesar at R Wing - Will be interesting to watch his development. He's an interesting prospect in that he plays fast and a skilled puck possession game - consistent with what HuGo's stated vision of what they wanted in a team when they were both brought on board. I say interesting because we have a few smaller forwards - Farrell, Kidney, RHP all who shoot left and Mesar is a right handed RW that did not look out of place with Slovakia in last year's world juniors. When I have watched Mesar, he has excellent passing eyes for open lanes, when he has the puck. Mesar did not have the outstanding year in Kitchener perhaps because he wasn't exactly surrounded by a strong cast. Mesar will compete with Ylonen (who doesn't play big), the gutsy Simoneau, and the getting long in the tooth Gallagher. By comparison Joshua Roy and Nathan Lagare as RW, have size and play a different game. Mesar was an interesting 2022 draft pick at #26, and I can see the reasons at this point as to why they drafted him. At the time, I was a little more enamoured with C - Jiri Kulich, or C- Brad Lambert, or even LW Reid Schaefer as they all had a bit more size. Thankfully the habs compensated for me by picking a C - Owen Beck at #33, and didn't duplicate a RW in the smaller comparable Jagger Firkus. Mesar vs. Firkus IMO is a fair comparison but Mesar has country synergy with Slafkovsky so I see that as another reason as to why Mesar was taken where he was. The cliche time will tell.
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Post by maasart on Sept 19, 2023 21:29:21 GMT
Was Mesar at centre? Ive noticed they've been playing him alternating centre & wing... wonder what the long term plan there is... I saw Mesar at R Wing - Will be interesting to watch his development. He's an interesting prospect in that he plays fast and a skilled puck possession game - consistent with what HuGo's stated vision of what they wanted in a team when they were both brought on board. I say interesting because we have a few smaller forwards - Farrell, Kidney, RHP all who shoot left and Mesar is a right handed RW that did not look out of place with Slovakia in last year's world juniors. When I have watched Mesar, he has excellent passing eyes for open lanes, when he has the puck. Mesar did not have the outstanding year in Kitchener perhaps because he wasn't exactly surrounded by a strong cast. Mesar will compete with Ylonen (who doesn't play big), the gutsy Simoneau, and the getting long in the tooth Gallagher. By comparison Joshua Roy and Nathan Lagare as RW, have size and play a different game. Mesar was an interesting 2022 draft pick at #26, and I can see the reasons at this point as to why they drafted him. At the time, I was a little more enamoured with C - Jiri Kulich, or C- Brad Lambert, or even LW Reid Schaefer as they all had a bit more size. Thankfully the habs compensated for me by picking a C - Owen Beck at #33, and didn't duplicate a RW in the smaller comparable Jagger Firkus. Mesar vs. Firkus IMO is a fair comparison but Mesar has country synergy with Slafkovsky so I see that as another reason as to why Mesar was taken where he was. The cliche time will tell. Agree with all of this. Im definitely interested in seeing what Mesar turns into. I didnt see much of the rookie tournament but after a weak 1st game it sounds like a lot of the kids levelled out & I heard good things about Reinbacher, Roy, Mesar, Kidney, Beck, Mailloux and most especially Trudeau. I doubt if (m)any of them will make it to the big club - i suppose a winger may have a shot at 4th line duty - but exciting to see what they do this upcoming season, no matter where they land.
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Post by electron58 on Sept 20, 2023 1:18:32 GMT
Caught a few minutes of the Ottawa Habs prospects game for a couple of periods. Small sample and not high level competition but 1) Reinbacher doesn’t look out of place 2) Mesar - he has some good moves and ability to find open space - good vision on a couple of power plays but is that misleadingly? Are power play players a dime a dozen? TBD 3) mailloux Struble will be a pairing to watch in Laval - Mailloux has good offense like we have stated but his defensive awareness will be something to watch Was Mesar at centre? Ive noticed they've been playing him alternating centre & wing... wonder what the long term plan there is... Can't say that I'm very high on Mesar. He may have skills, but he's soft and small. RHP & Simoneau are much griitier players with some skill and I expect they'll do much better. Can only have so many smurfs on the team, and that includes defensemen. A few other players we could have snagged, that were rated higher.
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Post by claremont on Sept 20, 2023 1:58:56 GMT
Was Mesar at centre? Ive noticed they've been playing him alternating centre & wing... wonder what the long term plan there is... Can't say that I'm very high on Mesar. He may have skills, but he's soft and small. RHP & Simoneau are much griitier players with some skill and I expect they'll do much better. Can only have so many smurfs on the team, and that includes defensemen. A few other players we could have snagged, that were rated higher. That’s a little premature on Mesar - I think you have to give the kid a chance vs just saying he’s soft and small based on a small sample size of Kitchener rangers and Slovak hockey - let’s see how he does at the Laval pro level etc. Simoneau and RHP couldn’t come close to the world juniors level, and are 3 years and 5 years older respectively than Mesar - you’re giving an apples and oranges comparison Mesar had 2 goals and 4 assists in last years juniors in 5 games.
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Post by ChiLla on Sept 21, 2023 14:15:33 GMT
Looks like Joshua Roy just keeps improving and working out the kinks in his game. I'm really looking forward to see what he can do against men in Laval, maybe he does have a shot at the NHL after all.
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