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Post by BigTed3 on Oct 9, 2024 12:11:56 GMT
Up front, what do I expect to happen? We're starting with
CC-Suzuki-Slaf
Newhook-Dach-Armia
ABB-Dvorak-Anderson
Heineman-Evans-Gallagher
Kapanen, Pezzetta
You'd have to expect the Habs will shop all of Armia, Dvorak, and Evans, and while they could theoretically re-sign one or both of Armia or Evans, we have other players waiting in the wings for those roster spots (Beck, Kapanen, Roy, Tuch, F. Xhekaj, Demidov, etc.). I don't see a big impetus to keep them if we can get some sort of value for them later in the year. I think all three should be tradeable. Gallagher is probably stuck here. Anderson is probably stuck here, unless he has some sort of large resurgence this year, though he could at some point be sent down or bought out over the next year if he doesn't bounce back. This is probably a make or break year for his NHL career. I'd expect Beck to get NHL games this year. I'd expect Roy to be called back up if his attitude permits. Laine will be back. So by the end of the season, my guess as to what the line-up looks like (barring injury) would be
Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovsky
Roy-Dach-Laine
Newhook-Kapanen-Heineman
ABB-Beck-Gallagher
Pezzetta, Anderson or RHP
and then next year, something similar but with Demidov here:
Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovsky
Demidov-Dach-Laine
Newhook-Kapanen-Roy
Heineman-Beck-Gallagher
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Post by maasart on Oct 9, 2024 14:13:27 GMT
Up front, what do I expect to happen? We're starting with CC-Suzuki-Slaf Newhook-Dach-Armia ABB-Dvorak-Anderson Heineman-Evans-Gallagher Kapanen, Pezzetta You'd have to expect the Habs will shop all of Armia, Dvorak, and Evans, and while they could theoretically re-sign one or both of Armia or Evans, we have other players waiting in the wings for those roster spots (Beck, Kapanen, Roy, Tuch, F. Xhekaj, Demidov, etc.). I don't see a big impetus to keep them if we can get some sort of value for them later in the year. I think all three should be tradeable. Gallagher is probably stuck here. Anderson is probably stuck here, unless he has some sort of large resurgence this year, though he could at some point be sent down or bought out over the next year if he doesn't bounce back. This is probably a make or break year for his NHL career. I'd expect Beck to get NHL games this year. I'd expect Roy to be called back up if his attitude permits. Laine will be back. So by the end of the season, my guess as to what the line-up looks like (barring injury) would be Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovsky Roy-Dach-Laine Newhook-Kapanen-Heineman ABB-Beck-Gallagher Pezzetta, Anderson or RHP and then next year, something similar but with Demidov here: Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovsky Demidov-Dach-Laine Newhook-Kapanen-Roy Heineman-Beck-Gallagher That roster, in a year, looks like the best forward group we've had since 1993. Only one bad contract (Gallagher) and youth at almost every other slot. |
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Post by jenniferrocket on Oct 9, 2024 16:23:54 GMT
Up front, what do I expect to happen? We're starting with CC-Suzuki-Slaf Newhook-Dach-Armia ABB-Dvorak-Anderson Heineman-Evans-Gallagher Kapanen, Pezzetta You'd have to expect the Habs will shop all of Armia, Dvorak, and Evans, and while they could theoretically re-sign one or both of Armia or Evans, we have other players waiting in the wings for those roster spots (Beck, Kapanen, Roy, Tuch, F. Xhekaj, Demidov, etc.). I don't see a big impetus to keep them if we can get some sort of value for them later in the year. I think all three should be tradeable. Gallagher is probably stuck here. Anderson is probably stuck here, unless he has some sort of large resurgence this year, though he could at some point be sent down or bought out over the next year if he doesn't bounce back. This is probably a make or break year for his NHL career. I'd expect Beck to get NHL games this year. I'd expect Roy to be called back up if his attitude permits. Laine will be back. So by the end of the season, my guess as to what the line-up looks like (barring injury) would be Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovsky Roy-Dach-Laine Newhook-Kapanen-Heineman ABB-Beck-Gallagher Pezzetta, Anderson or RHP and then next year, something similar but with Demidov here: Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovsky Demidov-Dach-Laine Newhook-Kapanen-Roy Heineman-Beck-Gallagher That roster, in a year, looks like the best forward group we've had since 1993. Only one bad contract (Gallagher) and youth at almost every other slot. Hmm. I would say two bad contracts!  Anderson and Gallagher. |
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Post by regis on Oct 9, 2024 17:31:17 GMT
four bold predictions for the Habs ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/4-big-montreal-canadiens-predictions-153000707.html1 Dach will have a career year 2 Hutson will not win Calder but it will be close 3 Caufield will reach 40 5 Sam M will play 50 games 1. 🤷♂️ I don’t know . He’s had injuries every year , so if he stays healthy and gets laine back early it’s possible 2 . Correct . Not sure if it will be close ‘cause I have no idea who is up for it , but as a D man , on the Habs , who have trouble scoring goals and the PP is , at the moment , atrocious , the points might be hard to comeby for the young d man. Hoping he develops into a Q Hughes type 3 nope 4 probably yes |
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Post by HTL on Oct 9, 2024 19:00:19 GMT
The Montreal Canadiens have signed defenceman Gustav Lindstrom to a one-year, two-way contract on Wednesday.
He has been placed on waivers for the purpose of a loan to the AHL's Laval Rocket.
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Post by regis on Oct 9, 2024 19:35:52 GMT
The Montreal Canadiens have signed defenceman Gustav Lindstrom to a one-year, two-way contract on Wednesday. He has been placed on waivers for the purpose of a loan to the AHL's Laval Rocket. 🤷♂️🤦🏻♂️ I don’t get it but we shall see . He’s the guy from last year |
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Post by claremont on Oct 9, 2024 20:07:36 GMT
Up front, what do I expect to happen? We're starting with CC-Suzuki-Slaf Newhook-Dach-Armia ABB-Dvorak-Anderson Heineman-Evans-Gallagher Kapanen, Pezzetta You'd have to expect the Habs will shop all of Armia, Dvorak, and Evans, and while they could theoretically re-sign one or both of Armia or Evans, we have other players waiting in the wings for those roster spots (Beck, Kapanen, Roy, Tuch, F. Xhekaj, Demidov, etc.). I don't see a big impetus to keep them if we can get some sort of value for them later in the year. I think all three should be tradeable. Gallagher is probably stuck here. Anderson is probably stuck here, unless he has some sort of large resurgence this year, though he could at some point be sent down or bought out over the next year if he doesn't bounce back. This is probably a make or break year for his NHL career. I'd expect Beck to get NHL games this year. I'd expect Roy to be called back up if his attitude permits. Laine will be back. So by the end of the season, my guess as to what the line-up looks like (barring injury) would be Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovsky Roy-Dach-Laine Newhook-Kapanen-Heineman ABB-Beck-Gallagher Pezzetta, Anderson or RHP and then next year, something similar but with Demidov here: Caufield-Suzuki-Slafkovsky Demidov-Dach-Laine Newhook-Kapanen-Roy Heineman-Beck-Gallagher We have full retention slots after this season. 1 retention slot for this year, but one would not think you need to retain any $ on Evans in a trade as he has a good contract at $1.7M. Leaves Armia at $3.4M or Savard at $3.5M so any retention is going to be small at $1.7M - $1.75M depending on the package offered back - picks or a prospect. That brings me back to Gally or Anderson with 2 years each at $6.5M or $5.5M after this year. The buyout candidate for me is Gallagher at end of season - $1.75M hit for 2025-26 then $4.75M, $1.75M, and $1.75M. Based on the cultural "treat the players right with respect adage" that seems to permeate this HuGo regime, for the years of Gally's service, I don't believe he is bought out but rather management tries to move him in a trade to a contender with a chance to win - He doesn't fit the Habs rebuild plans. So I am of the opinion that Gally is moved in some form of trade with up to 50% retention by the habs. maybe some other team picks up another 25% (with us throwing in a 3rd or 4th round pick to achieve that). It's a $3.25M cap hit on the retention but again most teams have a bad contract or dead cap hit of some minor amount. Now I circle back to Anderson and I know everyone pancakes him, but he is still one of the fastest big man skaters in the league despite some trouble with his mitts and scoring. After mediocre 3 seasons here without playing a full injury free season and tallying 20 goals / 30 point averages, he had a terrible season last year. It's too soon to write him off - maybe it was an outlier. It is a make or break / cut bait year for him. at this point to me, I would rather have Anderson as my 4th line RW than Gally. Your next year's forward lines look reasonable - the jury is still out for me on Joshua Roy's potential rise to a full time roster spot. Mesar may not be good enough or RHP or one of Tuch or Florian X to play their off wing so Roy is there by default. I suggest this is a decision year of Gallagher vs. Anderson year such that they could be interchangeable in your projection. Anderson due to age, size and truculence, plus lower salary could be a better trade candidate than Gally so you may be right on that 4th line. |
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Post by HTL on Oct 9, 2024 21:19:07 GMT
The Montreal Canadiens have signed defenceman Gustav Lindstrom to a one-year, two-way contract on Wednesday. He has been placed on waivers for the purpose of a loan to the AHL's Laval Rocket. 🤷♂️🤦🏻♂️ I don’t get it but we shall see . He’s the guy from last year My best guess is they were expecting Reinbacher to take up a spot in Laval and now that he's gone for most of the season i suppose they needed another warm body. |
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Post by maasart on Oct 9, 2024 21:57:28 GMT
That roster, in a year, looks like the best forward group we've had since 1993. Only one bad contract (Gallagher) and youth at almost every other slot. Hmm. I would say two bad contracts! Anderson and Gallagher. The implication is that Anderson will be gone by the time Demidov is here. Either he will be traded (unlikely) bought out (possible) or buried. |
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Post by maasart on Oct 9, 2024 21:58:52 GMT
The Montreal Canadiens have signed defenceman Gustav Lindstrom to a one-year, two-way contract on Wednesday. He has been placed on waivers for the purpose of a loan to the AHL's Laval Rocket. 🤷♂️🤦🏻♂️ I don’t get it but we shall see . He’s the guy from last year I dont think we wanted to lose him last year. he was good in Laval. It looks like we signed him & immediately waived him - hoping to get him to Laval & possibly be available for call ups if necessary. We're pretty slim at RHD. |
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Post by jenniferrocket on Oct 9, 2024 22:43:02 GMT
🤷♂️🤦🏻♂️ I don’t get it but we shall see . He’s the guy from last year My best guess is they were expecting Reinbacher to take up a spot in Laval and now that he's gone for most of the season i suppose they needed another warm body. Yeah. The Lidstrom signing makes ton of sense. Familiar body to help in Laval (and/or in Montreal should the injury bug bite). |
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Post by RCAF48 on Oct 11, 2024 2:19:49 GMT
MSL may be a good communicator and motivator and some things look promising. Our smaller, skilled guys are often exceeding expectations but our line-up is not all small, skilled guys. We are starting the 3rd year and I am still searching for some structure in our Dzone coverage/exits or an offensive system that consists of more than "head for an open spot on the perimeter". IMO our systems(?) appear to be derived from a "Pond Hockey Lite" manual. I think it is time to hire an old hockey guy to help MSL build game plans based on the players we have rather than on the type of players he thinks they should be.  |
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Post by regis on Oct 11, 2024 15:45:22 GMT
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Post by maasart on Oct 11, 2024 17:06:24 GMT
If we stay healthy I think its a possibility. ive been saying that I think we're going to be in the mix a the trade deadline and very curious to see how we go (I doubt we'll be buyers but we may not be huge sellers either) |
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Post by claremont on Oct 11, 2024 18:37:18 GMT
If we stay healthy I think its a possibility. ive been saying that I think we're going to be in the mix a the trade deadline and very curious to see how we go (I doubt we'll be buyers but we may not be huge sellers either) The Trade deadline will be very interesting this year as we have 4 players on expiring contracts and rank them as you see value to another team - namely C - Dvorak @ $4.45M, C - Evans - $1.7M, RW / LW - Joel Armia - $3.4M, and RHD - David Savard - $3.5M. We have 3 full retention slots (As I have said before - Gally / Anderson possibilities) that may also be used for these players. It seems very safe to me that we will be sellers, but what are the individual potential returns? Could anyone be potentially re-signed in the off season as a UFA? If Armia is willing to take a 1 year deal, he might be the most probable in my eyes. IMO I think Savard's days here are done (he has value to other teams), and he would not be a re-sign candidate. History says most of these trade deadline deals are dealt for draft picks (lots of samples - Sean Monahan, Jake Allen etc.). Unlikely that we get a current roster player from a contending team. By my simple math, our 2025 draft capital is pretty solid - 1st round - our own probably a top 10 pick, then the Florida / Calgary pick around #30-32. Two second round picks - our own #33-42, and Pittsburgh - probably #50 and then 3 3rd round picks. So here's HuGo's possibilities; 1) In trading Dvorak / Evans / Armia / Savard - target a team's existing prospect pool - someone who is further along in their development potential. Get someone sooner who can help a little quicker in this rebuild. 2) Settle for more draft picks. Use those draft picks at the Los Angeles 2025 draft podium to aggressively move up OR 3) Settle for more draft picks but prior to the draft, use those draft picks and target some roster players on other teams much like the Dach / Newhook moves and get more immediate help. As far as building and exchanging assets, I feel HuGo will have more additions, but time is the factor here - We need to get players that are emerging on the horizon like a Demidov (next year), and even a Michael Hage (2 years out), rather than building an even deeper prospect pool (Buffalo syndrome). BTW I will be watching Will Smith of San Jose - he burned up the NCAA in his freshman year - was he better off staying in the NCAA? Could Michael Hage come out after just 1 year - I doubt it. |
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Post by regis on Oct 12, 2024 14:13:20 GMT
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Post by jenniferrocket on Oct 12, 2024 14:39:35 GMT
I'm so glad Max Domi is not on this team anymore. |
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Post by regis on Oct 12, 2024 14:51:41 GMT
👆👆. Yea W e go5 the one good year out of his career
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Post by HTL on Oct 12, 2024 17:18:06 GMT
I'm so glad Max Domi is not on this team anymore. Never wanted him from day 1. Every time i looked at his kisser i saw his ugly dad. Was so happy the day we ditched the bum. The guy should never have worn our jersey. |
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Post by BigTed3 on Oct 12, 2024 18:29:38 GMT
I'm so glad Max Domi is not on this team anymore.
Yup. Didn't like him when he was here. Took so many dumb and/or selfish penalties. He was the epitome of a bad teammate. Seems like an okay guy off the ice, but on the ice, wouldn't want him on my team.
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Anderson and Gallagher.
