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Post by maasart on Feb 23, 2024 20:17:07 GMT
Some concerns in Vegas that Stone is going to be out long term (he has a lacerated spleen & is listed out indefinitely but there's word they are looking to possibly make a trade in case he cant go in the playoffs... Would Anderson be of any interest? You have to think his value is quite low now but in Vegas he'd be surrounded by a lot of talent and has always been a strong playoff performer... doubt we could get much for him but they could afford to give up a prospect/pick for help now & i dont see Anderson in our long term plans...
Would have to guess they're not looking at a guy with term as much, given they know Stone will be back next year. I can see them having more interest in a player Guentzel or maybe Tarasenko or Eberle. Would they repatriate a player like Pacioretty or Reilly Smith? Or would they consider a guy like Buchnevich, who has just a year left after this one? I'd have a hard time believing they see Anderson as their best option. I doubt Anderson moves anywhere this year, but if ever we were going to move him, I'd have to think teams that got muscled out of the playoffs, like New Jersey, would be more interested than anyone else. I could maybe see teams like Edmonton or Boston having interest too, but only if we retained salary. In the off-season, maybe teams like Calgary, St. Louis, Arizona, or Philly join the mix... teams that think they need change but don't want to do full rebuilds from where they are.
Fair points I do know they have a few UFA contracts coming off the books but you're right, if it was 1 more year after this, maybe but if he doesnt end up being a good fit there's still 3 more years on his contract. The reason i suggested it is that in today's day and age if you have an opportunity for a cup, you take it - future be damned - and the Knights have a chance to repeat but may not have many more. If they feel like Stone is not coming back this year, i think they take whatever they believe to be their best chance and worry about future contract years this summer. We shall see. It probably isnt anderson either way but I think he's still regarded as a special player despite the nightmare season.
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Post by BigTed3 on Feb 24, 2024 2:48:15 GMT
Not a rumour but............ The fans may be having trouble getting in the building in LA but the scouts aren't! Largest gathering of the season for NSH-LAK: CHI (2) NYR (2) MTL (2) BOS CBJ DAL EDM FLA VGK MIN WPG NJD PHI TBL CGY
Saw that. Would have to think it's more likely they're scouting LA than Nashville. LA has been rumored to want some help on defence, so maybe one of Savard, Harris, Matheson, or Xhekaj interests them. In turn, LA has been rumored to have been shopping Arthur Kaliyev and Alex Turcotte is another player with some links to the Habs who has never really found his footing in LA. Two names I'd watch if we're looking at LA... Jordan Spence is another I've mentioned before, but he was recently demoted to the minors, so wasn't a target of our scouting.
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Post by jenniferrocket on Feb 25, 2024 15:28:55 GMT
On Montreal Hockey Inside Out they were discussing Jordan Harris being traded. Is this a legit rumor or just something they needed for a discussion topic on their show?
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Post by maasart on Feb 28, 2024 20:43:15 GMT
On Montreal Hockey Inside Out they were discussing Jordan Harris being traded. Is this a legit rumor or just something they needed for a discussion topic on their show? It sounds legit - that GMs have been told he's available. I think hughes realizes we're overloaded at LD (and Hutson likely joins us soon)... Harris is odd man out. On a different note, I heard someone on a different site suggest offering a ' full monahan' (calgary's 1st and winnipeg's first) and i kinda just wanna see that happen, no matter what its for so we can say we traded the full monahan.
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Post by BigTed3 on Feb 28, 2024 21:14:31 GMT
I 100% think that Winnipeg pick this year is in play for a trade as part of a package. I'm less convinced the Calgary pick is (which will probably turn out to be the Florida pick though)... that could end up being a top 10 pick in theory, so no sense in trading it before you know whether it's a lottery pick or not. The other way this could go is that the Habs could hang on to that Cgy/Fla pick next year and use their own 1st rounder as part of an offersheet this summer... it's rare that happens, but I think Hughes is an outside-the-box guy and we'll see if he sees an opportunity. Elias Pettersson is having trouble coming to terms with Vancouver... maybe there's an opportunity there, for example.
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Post by HTL on Feb 28, 2024 21:15:39 GMT
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Post by regis on Feb 28, 2024 21:41:47 GMT
π That website is π©
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Post by ramcharger440 on Feb 28, 2024 21:46:35 GMT
LOL!
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Post by ramcharger440 on Feb 28, 2024 21:47:01 GMT
I 100% think that Winnipeg pick this year is in play for a trade as part of a package. I'm less convinced the Calgary pick is (which will probably turn out to be the Florida pick though)... that could end up being a top 10 pick in theory, so no sense in trading it before you know whether it's a lottery pick or not. The other way this could go is that the Habs could hang on to that Cgy/Fla pick next year and use their own 1st rounder as part of an offersheet this summer... it's rare that happens, but I think Hughes is an outside-the-box guy and we'll see if he sees an opportunity. Elias Pettersson is having trouble coming to terms with Vancouver... maybe there's an opportunity there, for example. Yep makes sense!
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Post by HTL on Feb 28, 2024 21:59:43 GMT
I thought it would be good for a laugh.
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Post by regis on Feb 28, 2024 22:06:42 GMT
I thought it would be good for a laugh. It always is .ππ€£ That website use to pop up on Facebook with nonsense all the time , I decided to block them
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Post by maasart on Feb 28, 2024 22:30:08 GMT
I 100% think that Winnipeg pick this year is in play for a trade as part of a package. I'm less convinced the Calgary pick is (which will probably turn out to be the Florida pick though)... that could end up being a top 10 pick in theory, so no sense in trading it before you know whether it's a lottery pick or not. The other way this could go is that the Habs could hang on to that Cgy/Fla pick next year and use their own 1st rounder as part of an offersheet this summer... it's rare that happens, but I think Hughes is an outside-the-box guy and we'll see if he sees an opportunity. Elias Pettersson is having trouble coming to terms with Vancouver... maybe there's an opportunity there, for example. Oh i know. i was just playing because i think it would be funy to say "full monahan" but yeah, i would be shocked if we traded both (certainly both in one deal). I do think there's a better than 50% chance we dont pick with winnipeg's pick. I think we'll either package it & move up, or trade it for a young played drafted in the last 2-3 years.
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Post by regis on Feb 28, 2024 23:37:50 GMT
Fwiw Steve staios denied the rumours today π
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Post by BigTed3 on Feb 28, 2024 23:49:32 GMT
FWIW, several sources believe the Habs have been approached by multiple teams about David Savard. Rumored teams that are interested include Dallas, TB, Toronto, and Edmonton. No big surprises there. But past that, Dave Pagnotta and other sources are also saying they believe Joel Armia is attracting a bit of attention and could be traded too. He's put up 10 goals in a little over a half season worth of games, playing in a non-offensive role, and he's proven he can perform in the playoffs in the past. So wondering if there's a market for him (and if not this year then there likely is next year when he's on an expiring contract).
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Post by maasart on Feb 28, 2024 23:55:08 GMT
FWIW, several sources believe the Habs have been approached by multiple teams about David Savard. Rumored teams that are interested include Dallas, TB, Toronto, and Edmonton. No big surprises there. But past that, Dave Pagnotta and other sources are also saying they believe Joel Armia is attracting a bit of attention and could be traded too. He's put up 10 goals in a little over a half season worth of games, playing in a non-offensive role, and he's proven he can perform in the playoffs in the past. So wondering if there's a market for him (and if not this year then there likely is next year when he's on an expiring contract). By the sounds of things, Hughes isnt particularly interested in trading Savard but will do so if the offer is maybe a slight overpayment. Considering his history, his playoff skillset and the fact that he'd be with his new team for 1 more year & 2 playoffs... you have to think fair market value is probably a 1st + middling prospect - basically like Chiarot. (i know we got a 4th too with Chiarot) So maybe "better than FMV" would be a 1st + a good prospect? or maybe a 1st + 2nd? Or just a really top end prospect? Id be down for any of those as I dont think Savard is here long term. I think he's a great vet to have around but if you can get that kind of value from him, it should be a no-brainer.
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Post by regis on Feb 29, 2024 1:49:06 GMT
If they can move Pearson and / or Armia and / or Allen then that would be a + . Neither of these would , I suspect , bring anything of substantial value back ( I figure a late draft pick ) but ultimately their trading would free up a roster spot . Unfortunately I donβt see what value any of the three would bring to a playoff team , I canβt see them being any better than what a team already has . But we shall see in the next week
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Post by electron58 on Feb 29, 2024 2:50:18 GMT
FWIW, several sources believe the Habs have been approached by multiple teams about David Savard. Rumored teams that are interested include Dallas, TB, Toronto, and Edmonton. No big surprises there. But past that, Dave Pagnotta and other sources are also saying they believe Joel Armia is attracting a bit of attention and could be traded too. He's put up 10 goals in a little over a half season worth of games, playing in a non-offensive role, and he's proven he can perform in the playoffs in the past. So wondering if there's a market for him (and if not this year then there likely is next year when he's on an expiring contract). By the sounds of things, Hughes isnt particularly interested in trading Savard but will do so if the offer is maybe a slight overpayment.Β Considering his history, his playoff skillset and the fact that he'd be with his new team for 1 more year & 2 playoffs... you have to think fair market value is probably a 1st + middling prospect - basically like Chiarot. (i know we got a 4th too with Chiarot)Β So maybe "better than FMV" would be a 1st + a good prospect?Β or maybe a 1st + 2nd? Or just a really top end prospect?Β Β Id be down for any of those as I dont think Savard is here long term.Β I think he's a great vet to have around but if you can get that kind of value from him, it should be a no-brainer.Β Now that Tanev supposedly set the market, I don't see Savard being moved if they thought Tanev>Savard.
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Post by maasart on Feb 29, 2024 14:57:15 GMT
If they can move Pearson and / or Armia and / or Allen then that would be a + . Neither of these would , I suspect , bring anything of substantial value back ( I figure a late draft pick ) but ultimately their trading would free up a roster spot . Unfortunately I donβt see what value any of the three would bring to a playoff team , I canβt see them being any better than what a team already has . But we shall see in the next week If Armia was UFA this summer i think a lot of playoff teams would want him. He's a defensive stalwart in the playoff & while he doesnt score tons, his goals are often timely. I think that second year is a problem. I agree though that none of the 3 will likely bring back much unless its part of a bigger deal (ie we trade them Pearson & they trade us back a deadweight soon to be UFA so the other team has cap space to add another player - and we likely get a higher pick out of it.
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Post by maasart on Feb 29, 2024 14:58:18 GMT
By the sounds of things, Hughes isnt particularly interested in trading Savard but will do so if the offer is maybe a slight overpayment. Considering his history, his playoff skillset and the fact that he'd be with his new team for 1 more year & 2 playoffs... you have to think fair market value is probably a 1st + middling prospect - basically like Chiarot. (i know we got a 4th too with Chiarot) So maybe "better than FMV" would be a 1st + a good prospect? or maybe a 1st + 2nd? Or just a really top end prospect? Id be down for any of those as I dont think Savard is here long term. I think he's a great vet to have around but if you can get that kind of value from him, it should be a no-brainer. Now that Tanev supposedly set the market, I don't see Savard being moved if they thought Tanev>Savard. Never underestimate the frenzy that happens with some GMs on deadline day, lol. But yeah, id still say its 30/70 he goes/stays.
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Post by jenniferrocket on Mar 1, 2024 16:44:08 GMT
We should try an experiment where we see how long it takes between us posting something silly in the "If I were GM" thread and it showing up as a "rumor" on one of these terrible rumor hockey sites.
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