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Post by HTL on Mar 1, 2024 16:51:09 GMT
We should try an experiment where we see how long it takes between us posting something silly in the "If I were GM" thread and it showing up as a "rumor" on one of these terrible rumor hockey sites. Some of them are terrible. Apparently we're pretty much giving away Harris, Barron and Wifi just to mention a few.
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Post by maasart on Mar 1, 2024 16:52:27 GMT
We should try an experiment where we see how long it takes between us posting something silly in the "If I were GM" thread and it showing up as a "rumor" on one of these terrible rumor hockey sites. Haha, have definitely seen it in the past. There's been a couple of times when one of us comes up with an idea & a few days later it's an E3 on the Eklund chart. lol.
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Post by maasart on Mar 1, 2024 16:52:58 GMT
We should try an experiment where we see how long it takes between us posting something silly in the "If I were GM" thread and it showing up as a "rumor" on one of these terrible rumor hockey sites. Some of them are terrible. Apparently we're pretty much giving away Harris, Barron and Wifi just to mention a few. yeah, we would have been "lucky" to get a 2nd for Monahan too
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Post by maasart on Mar 1, 2024 18:56:27 GMT
If you believe David Pagnotta (relatively reputable source, certainly better than hacks like Eklund) Hughes has been fielding calls on 4 players: Savard, Allen, Armia and Pearson. Some of those may be really low ball offers ("we'll give you a 7th for Armia" etc) in which case he may just keep them. Pearson would be the only "must trade" if there's any interest since he's UFA & wont be resigned. His return will be very little. The article doesnt mention Harris although i think its clear he's odd-man-out on D and quietly being shopped. Will be an interesting week. I dont see a lot of returns for us (unless hughes suprises us with a Matheson deal or, maybe, savard) but i think we will probably make a couple of small moves. Article here: www.thefourthperiod.com/feb-2024/habs-continue-to-draw-interest-in-savard
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Post by electron58 on Mar 1, 2024 21:59:52 GMT
If you believe David Pagnotta (relatively reputable source, certainly better than hacks like Eklund) Hughes has been fielding calls on 4 players: Savard, Allen, Armia and Pearson. Some of those may be really low ball offers ("we'll give you a 7th for Armia" etc) in which case he may just keep them. Pearson would be the only "must trade" if there's any interest since he's UFA & wont be resigned. His return will be very little. The article doesnt mention Harris although i think its clear he's odd-man-out on D and quietly being shopped. Will be an interesting week. I dont see a lot of returns for us (unless hughes suprises us with a Matheson deal or, maybe, savard) but i think we will probably make a couple of small moves. Article here: www.thefourthperiod.com/feb-2024/habs-continue-to-draw-interest-in-savardI think if we get a 7th for Armia with no retention you take it. We tried to give him away for free and there were no takers. Just because he's playing a little better is no reason to hold out for more. I'd even take future considerations. 😎
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Post by maasart on Mar 2, 2024 0:36:52 GMT
If you believe David Pagnotta (relatively reputable source, certainly better than hacks like Eklund) Hughes has been fielding calls on 4 players: Savard, Allen, Armia and Pearson. Some of those may be really low ball offers ("we'll give you a 7th for Armia" etc) in which case he may just keep them. Pearson would be the only "must trade" if there's any interest since he's UFA & wont be resigned. His return will be very little. The article doesnt mention Harris although i think its clear he's odd-man-out on D and quietly being shopped. Will be an interesting week. I dont see a lot of returns for us (unless hughes suprises us with a Matheson deal or, maybe, savard) but i think we will probably make a couple of small moves. Article here: www.thefourthperiod.com/feb-2024/habs-continue-to-draw-interest-in-savardI think if we get a 7th for Armia with no retention you take it. We tried to give him away for free and there were no takers. Just because he's playing a little better is no reason to hold out for more. I'd even take future considerations. 😎 I dont disagree with you but im not sure the team sees him as a negative value. He's overpaid, yes, but he's an NHLer. MSL has said he makes a coaches job easier because you know he'll just go out there & eat minutes. At this point, he's probably $1-1.5m over replacement and we clearly dont need that cap room for another couple of years. I just dont see them moving armia unless they get at least a 3rd or 4th for him. Certainly could be wrong though.
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Post by electron58 on Mar 2, 2024 22:31:09 GMT
For the second time this week, a major goaltender has been pulled off the trade market. Following on a report from late Wednesday night that the Minnesota Wild will officially not be moving veteran netminder Marc-Andre Fleury, the Calgary Flames have now changed their tune on Jacob Markstrom, and pulled him off the market as well. We shall see. Hopefully teams view Jake Allen as a viable back up. Stat wise not looking good but his underlying numbers seem good.
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Post by maasart on Mar 4, 2024 18:29:31 GMT
Friedman reporting there's quite a bit of interest in harris - im not sure if that means "interested cheap" or if teams realize this is a good, young player they could get to upgrade their LHD.
No major sources but ive seen on a couple of sites that have thrown out Harris to LA for Kaliyev. This could be pure speculation (partially connected to MB since he drafted Harris) but if thats the sort of return we can get for him, id do it. Kaliyev is a big body (not super physical) young winger who, at worst, fills out your 3rd line but could still grow into a top 6 role. Not sure if we'd have to add something to a deal like that but if its minor, id still consider.
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Post by claremont on Mar 4, 2024 21:51:33 GMT
Friedman reporting there's quite a bit of interest in harris - im not sure if that means "interested cheap" or if teams realize this is a good, young player they could get to upgrade their LHD. No major sources but ive seen on a couple of sites that have thrown out Harris to LA for Kaliyev. This could be pure speculation (partially connected to MB since he drafted Harris) but if thats the sort of return we can get for him, id do it. Kaliyev is a big body (not super physical) young winger who, at worst, fills out your 3rd line but could still grow into a top 6 role. Not sure if we'd have to add something to a deal like that but if its minor, id still consider. Agree - Harris is attractive because he is under RFA control. You would want to get an equivalent RFA prospect like Kaliyev back or some sort of upgraded consideration under contract for at least 2 more years as part of a package. LA could use another LD in the 5/6 pairing as I don't think Andreas Ecklund is their solution and they don't have much in their LD prospect pool. As a RW, Kaliyev is expendable as they have Ziemmer coming up or wingers are easier to buy in Free agency. Kaliyev would perhaps make Ylonen expendable.
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Post by maasart on Mar 7, 2024 19:07:04 GMT
I havent heard anyone reputable mention it but ive seen on few sites that TB really wants to get a RHD. They'd love to get Savard back but financially may be more interested in Kovacevic.
I have heard the suggestion of Kovacevic + Canucks 3rd for Gauthier which id definitely do but not sure TB would.
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Post by maasart on Apr 24, 2024 20:01:06 GMT
A lot of rumours linking us to Jonathan Marchessault this summer. Obviously its just conjecture (no one even knows if he'll hit the UFA market anyway) but the rumours persist for sure.
I can see why people think that: he fits a need (centre), he's Quebecois etc. but i kinda hope Hughes doesnt go that way. He's small, he's oldish (33) and i cant see how he wants the term we would give him.
Sure, if he wants to come here for 2 years, fine (same with Monahan) but you have to assume he's going to be looking for 4, 5 or even more years. Someone will pay him for the chance to win in the net two seasons & then deal with it later.
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Post by HTL on Apr 24, 2024 20:31:37 GMT
A lot of rumours linking us to Jonathan Marchessault this summer. Obviously its just conjecture (no one even knows if he'll hit the UFA market anyway) but the rumours persist for sure. I can see why people think that: he fits a need (centre), he's Quebecois etc. but i kinda hope Hughes doesnt go that way. He's small, he's oldish (33) and i cant see how he wants the term we would give him. Sure, if he wants to come here for 2 years, fine (same with Monahan) but you have to assume he's going to be looking for 4, 5 or even more years. Someone will pay him for the chance to win in the net two seasons & then deal with it later. Yeah,,,, i'm all for adding a scoring veteran if the term is good but i don't want Hughes to handcuff us with those long deals for aging guys like MB was famous for. IMO you pay a guy for what you think he'll bring to the team rather than what he's done in the past with another team.
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Post by claremont on Apr 24, 2024 20:56:08 GMT
A lot of rumours linking us to Jonathan Marchessault this summer. Obviously its just conjecture (no one even knows if he'll hit the UFA market anyway) but the rumours persist for sure. I can see why people think that: he fits a need (centre), he's Quebecois etc. but i kinda hope Hughes doesnt go that way. He's small, he's oldish (33) and i cant see how he wants the term we would give him. Sure, if he wants to come here for 2 years, fine (same with Monahan) but you have to assume he's going to be looking for 4, 5 or even more years. Someone will pay him for the chance to win in the net two seasons & then deal with it later. Marchessault will be 34 in December. I read projections where he will likely get $6M to $6.5M for a 3 year maybe 4 year deal. Pro's - stanley cup ring/ Conn Smythe / experience, proven goal scorer coming off a career high 42 goals, 69 points. Likely projects 30g, 60 points. Not injury prone, and durable. Con's - another smallish winger, deals like this are good for 2 years then the inevitable decline. Probably does not fit in the full compete window. Personally, I don't see a great fit. I like the ideas of Necas, Kent Johnson or even Zegras if it does not cost much to acquire any 1 of them.
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Post by ChiLla on Apr 25, 2024 6:24:34 GMT
A lot of rumours linking us to Jonathan Marchessault this summer. Obviously its just conjecture (no one even knows if he'll hit the UFA market anyway) but the rumours persist for sure. I can see why people think that: he fits a need (centre), he's Quebecois etc. but i kinda hope Hughes doesnt go that way. He's small, he's oldish (33) and i cant see how he wants the term we would give him. Sure, if he wants to come here for 2 years, fine (same with Monahan) but you have to assume he's going to be looking for 4, 5 or even more years. Someone will pay him for the chance to win in the net two seasons & then deal with it later. Marchessault will be 34 in December. I read projections where he will likely get $6M to $6.5M for a 3 year maybe 4 year deal. Pro's - stanley cup ring/ Conn Smythe / experience, proven goal scorer coming off a career high 42 goals, 69 points. Likely projects 30g, 60 points. Not injury prone, and durable. Con's - another smallish winger, deals like this are good for 2 years then the inevitable decline. Probably does not fit in the full compete window. Personally, I don't see a great fit. I like the ideas of Necas, Kent Johnson or even Zegras if it does not cost much to acquire any 1 of them. Yeah, I don't think we should be spending big money on Marchessault. He's a very good player but I also don't think it's a great fit here, there are only so many smaller guys you can realistically have in your top six. If we decide to go the UFA route, I'd think long and hard about bringing Monahan back on a multi-year deal – if he's willing of course.
Trading for assets is the better option I believe, we have too many middling prospects and should be looking to add young-ish, somewhat proven NHL talent instead.
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Post by HTL on May 5, 2024 17:58:13 GMT
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Post by habsalways on May 5, 2024 19:13:37 GMT
If they retain half his salary and the trade is PLD for a 3rd ... I'm ok with it
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Post by BigTed3 on May 5, 2024 19:35:39 GMT
If they retain half his salary and the trade is PLD for a 3rd ... I'm ok with it
Not even... he has 7 more years left on a terrible contract, plus he's got an awful attitude. I said pass when Winnipeg wanted to trade him and it's an even harder pass now.
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Post by habsalways on May 5, 2024 23:46:48 GMT
If they retain half his salary and the trade is PLD for a 3rd ... I'm ok with it
Not even... he has 7 more years left on a terrible contract, plus he's got an awful attitude. I said pass when Winnipeg wanted to trade him and it's an even harder pass now.
Yeah, I was being facetious since there's zero chance LA would pull the trigger on that. I want nothing to do with PLD, on here and the old forums I was consistently critical of anyone suggesting we pursue him. Side note, what would you think of a 1/2 retention trade of Laine to us for the final two years of his contract to see if he could shake the monkey off his back?
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Post by regis on May 6, 2024 0:17:33 GMT
Hard pass on Laine too 🙅♂️
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Post by claremont on May 6, 2024 1:32:05 GMT
Not even... he has 7 more years left on a terrible contract, plus he's got an awful attitude. I said pass when Winnipeg wanted to trade him and it's an even harder pass now.
Yeah, I was being facetious since there's zero chance LA would pull the trigger on that. I want nothing to do with PLD, on here and the old forums I was consistently critical of anyone suggesting we pursue him. Side note, what would you think of a 1/2 retention trade of Laine to us for the final two years of his contract to see if he could shake the monkey off his back? I would pass on Laine too. We have too many IF players and the IF for Laine is can he recover his game and potential ? Current IF’s - can Anderson recover his game and grow a new pair of hands ? Can Gally postpone his wear and tear and actually contribute next year? Can Joshua Roy develop and fit in the lineup? Can RHP find his game? Laine to me just presents another risk even at $4.35M - 1/2 salary
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