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Post by claremont on Jun 24, 2024 23:17:31 GMT
And continuing this leaf thread….Frank Servalli insider reports leafs about to extend Woll at $3.5m AAV for 3 years. What a ridiculous long shot gamble. He just does not have the body of work or world championship experience like Monty has. They must be inhaling some funky smog in their boardroom!
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Post by BigTed3 on Jun 24, 2024 23:35:05 GMT
One of the Boston Herald reporters is saying Ullmark will go to Ottawa. Not clear how reliable a source this is.
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Post by BigTed3 on Jun 24, 2024 23:57:16 GMT
One of the Boston Herald reporters is saying Ullmark will go to Ottawa. Not clear how reliable a source this is. And it's done, 10 minutes before the SCF Game 7 starts!
Ullmark to Ottawa for Korpisalo, Kastelic, and pick 25. Decent trade for Ottawa here.
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Post by BigTed3 on Jun 26, 2024 23:15:38 GMT
Eric Tulsky says almost every team in the league has had discussions with him about Necas and that sorting out that dossier is at the top of the list. He says there have been some serious offers and the news from Lebrun is that the Canes may be very close to a deal with a team where the return includes a first-round pick. The Habs would have to be considered one of the teams able to give up a 1st. Some rumors that Buffalo could also be that team.
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Post by BigTed3 on Jun 26, 2024 23:58:24 GMT
Eric Tulsky says almost every team in the league has had discussions with him about Necas and that sorting out that dossier is at the top of the list. He says there have been some serious offers and the news from Lebrun is that the Canes may be very close to a deal with a team where the return includes a first-round pick. The Habs would have to be considered one of the teams able to give up a 1st. Some rumors that Buffalo could also be that team.
Seravalli saying the Devils are willing to offer pick 10 in a package for Necas. We can't match that...
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Post by maasart on Jun 27, 2024 3:57:58 GMT
Eric Tulsky says almost every team in the league has had discussions with him about Necas and that sorting out that dossier is at the top of the list. He says there have been some serious offers and the news from Lebrun is that the Canes may be very close to a deal with a team where the return includes a first-round pick. The Habs would have to be considered one of the teams able to give up a 1st. Some rumors that Buffalo could also be that team.
Seravalli saying the Devils are willing to offer pick 10 in a package for Necas. We can't match that...
If true then yes, that puts us out of the running unless the Canes want multiple assets (26th + Harris + ____)
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Post by graeme on Jun 27, 2024 14:26:45 GMT
You could potentially still get it done with Guhle (Romanov got a 12th, I'd think Guhle could be considered worth a 10th), but I'd be somewhat surprised if Montreal made that trade.
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Post by maasart on Jun 27, 2024 15:27:01 GMT
You could potentially still get it done with Guhle (Romanov got a 12th, I'd think Guhle could be considered worth a 10th), but I'd be somewhat surprised if Montreal made that trade. Yeah, i think Guhle could be the primary piece in a trade for most young forwards rumoured to be available (Necas, Zegras etc) but id be really really careful about trading him. Id like to hang on to Hutson, Reinbacher, Guhle, Struble and Xhekaj (probably in that order). I really like Harris, think Mailloux has promise and still think there's a chance Barron could develop but i think all 3 of them are expendable if the right deal comes along. The older guys (Matheson, Savard, Kovacevic) will likely be moved before their contracts are done, or not resigned once they are.
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Post by BigTed3 on Jun 28, 2024 10:59:58 GMT
Aaron Ekblad has changed agents, and there are rumors that Florida may be shopping him in order to create cap space to re-sign Reinhart, Lundell, and other players instead.
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Post by claremont on Jun 28, 2024 11:28:36 GMT
Aaron Ekblad has changed agents, and there are rumors that Florida may be shopping him in order to create cap space to re-sign Reinhart, Lundell, and other players instead. Ekblad has never impressed me as a top pairing dman - overrated and overpaid for what he delivers IMO Saros reportedly about to sign an 8 year $7.7m deal - he’s a solid goalie and that value seems about right relative to Bobs and Vas
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Post by BigTed3 on Jun 28, 2024 12:14:35 GMT
Aaron Ekblad has changed agents, and there are rumors that Florida may be shopping him in order to create cap space to re-sign Reinhart, Lundell, and other players instead. Ekblad has never impressed me as a top pairing dman - overrated and overpaid for what he delivers IMO Saros reportedly about to sign an 8 year $7.7m deal - he’s a solid goalie and that value seems about right relative to Bobs and Vas Me neither, I've always thought Ekblad was overrated. IMO Forsling and Montour were the guys who drove that Florida defence the past two years, not Ekblad. Sounds like Florida has realized that too.
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Post by claremont on Jun 29, 2024 16:08:50 GMT
Sergachev to Utah for a prospect Geekie and roster player JJ Moser Then Bolts traded Jeannot to the Kings Gearing up to resign Stamkos and another big move?
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Post by regis on Jun 29, 2024 16:12:46 GMT
Sergachev to Utah for a prospect Geekie and roster player JJ Moser Then Bolts traded Jeannot to the Kings Gearing up to resign Stamkos and another big move? 🤣. We’ll see what the other moves are but I get they want Stamkos bsck but trading away other players ( Sergachrv ) , signing an aging D man ( McDonough ) is Thst really make u better . I mean Stamkos will be 35 . Just move on from him
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Post by ramcharger440 on Jun 29, 2024 16:46:47 GMT
Odd moves!
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Post by habsalways on Jul 2, 2024 15:23:05 GMT
Rumors still persisting of HABs pursuing Laine. If we could get him at 50% retention ... Caufield - Suzy - Slaf Laine - Dach - Demidov
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Post by maasart on Jul 2, 2024 16:21:09 GMT
Rumors still persisting of HABs pursuing Laine. If we could get him at 50% retention ... Caufield - Suzy - Slaf Laine - Dach - Demidov Im more than happy to take on Laine - even at 25% retained - if he's indeed recovered. The big thing for me is what its going to cost to acquire him because hes' only signed 2 more years & i dont want to give up a lot to get him & then see him bolt for a bit payday which i doubt we could/would give him. As for your lines, i still think we're going to break up that top line relatively soon. CC/Dach Slaf/Suzuki. So i think our lines would be: Slaf - Suzuki - Demidov CC - Dach - Laine Which would be something very very exciting indeed.
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Post by claremont on Jul 2, 2024 23:17:51 GMT
I read the noise on Rutger McGroarty (let aline the problem child Laine). I would love to pick Rutger up for some fair value but it is a timing thing. 1. No Guarantee that McGroarty signs with us given the NCAA rights post college 2. He was a 14th overall pick in 2022 and he seems to be demonstrating value for that pick level at Michigan 3. What's the fair value equation? Could we get him for the Calgary 2025 first round pick - need to see where Calgary lands after this season, and the depth of that draft as alternatives. Bearing in mind that the Calgary pick is unlikely to be NHL ready for 2 more years whereas McGroarty should be ready. As an alternative could we acquire McGroarty for a 2025 2nd round pick plus one of our excess LHD players?
Assuming Gally is bought out end of this season A winger roster of Slafkovsky, Caufield, Demidov, at least one of Newhook/Dach, Roy , McGroarty, Anderson (maybe) with Heineman and one of Tuch / Florian Xhekaj or Mesar / Farrell / the forgotten Kidney who probably isn't a centre would give me some confidence on the wingers.
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Post by BigTed3 on Jul 3, 2024 0:57:21 GMT
I read the noise on Rutger McGroarty (let aline the problem child Laine). I would love to pick Rutger up for some fair value but it is a timing thing. 1. No Guarantee that McGroarty signs with us given the NCAA rights post college 2. He was a 14th overall pick in 2022 and he seems to be demonstrating value for that pick level at Michigan 3. What's the fair value equation? Could we get him for the Calgary 2025 first round pick - need to see where Calgary lands after this season, and the depth of that draft as alternatives. Bearing in mind that the Calgary pick is unlikely to be NHL ready for 2 more years whereas McGroarty should be ready. As an alternative could we acquire McGroarty for a 2025 2nd round pick plus one of our excess LHD players? Assuming Gally is bought out end of this season A winger roster of Slafkovsky, Caufield, Demidov, at least one of Newhook/Dach, Roy , McGroarty, Anderson (maybe) with Heineman and one of Tuch / Florian Xhekaj or Mesar / Farrell / the forgotten Kidney who probably isn't a centre would give me some confidence on the wingers.
The natural thing for us to offer for McGroarty would be a LHD and a pick. That said, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me to trade a 1st rounder when you don't know for sure it won't be a lottery pick. So even though next year's Calgary pick probably becomes next's year Florida pick, you just never know if Florida will bomb after two long post-season runs and having to cut ties with certain players and bring in others. I wouldn't be dealing that pick until we're halfway through next season and see where the Panthers and Flames are headed. The ideal pick for us to package would have been 26 but then we decided to move up to 21 and then we were able to get Hage (who might on his own end up being better than McGroarty and who was probably a player who should have been picked in the 13-18 range. All that to say that if Winnipeg had been interested in building a return around a mid-late first, I think we would have already made the trade. I don't really know what they want instead and whether that gels with what we can give up. I wouldn't trade a similar level prospect for him and then, as you said, risk that he just never signs here. My best offer would probably be a 2nd rounder + one of Barron, Mesar, Heineman, Tuch, or Harris.
As far as prospects go for our wings, I think we now have 5 out 6 elements for our top 6: Suzuki, CC, Slaf, Demidov, and Dach. I think the jury is still out on whether Hage, Roy, Heineman, or Newhook get there, but I'd be more comfortable with a third line of Newhook-Beck-Roy down the line, and I think you want some mix of size, energy, and defensive play on your 4th line, so players like RHP, Tuch, Xhekaj, Koivu, and Simoneau could be candidates to settle there. It's also not a big deal to look at signing or trading for players to play there when you're ready, akin to how we added Perry and Staal to go with Armia a few years ago in our Cup Finals run. I don't have high hopes for any of Mesar, Farrell, or Kidney at present. They would have to blossom in their development to become factors. The two wildcards for me are Hage and Kapanen, who has taken a step in the past year and now needs to be considered. Otherwise, the Habs are still looking to round out their top 6 of the future via trade or signing. I still see Kent Johnson as being one potential option not getting enough discussion. Peyton Krebs could be another option. If St. Louis keeps adding veterans like they're wanting to compete now, would Jimmy Snuggerud or Jake Neighbours become available? I think there are still things Hughes needs to look into here past the obvious Zegras, Laine, Necas stories.
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Post by graeme on Jul 3, 2024 3:43:14 GMT
I read the noise on Rutger McGroarty (let aline the problem child Laine). I would love to pick Rutger up for some fair value but it is a timing thing. 1. No Guarantee that McGroarty signs with us given the NCAA rights post college 2. He was a 14th overall pick in 2022 and he seems to be demonstrating value for that pick level at Michigan 3. What's the fair value equation? Could we get him for the Calgary 2025 first round pick - need to see where Calgary lands after this season, and the depth of that draft as alternatives. Bearing in mind that the Calgary pick is unlikely to be NHL ready for 2 more years whereas McGroarty should be ready. As an alternative could we acquire McGroarty for a 2025 2nd round pick plus one of our excess LHD players? Assuming Gally is bought out end of this season A winger roster of Slafkovsky, Caufield, Demidov, at least one of Newhook/Dach, Roy , McGroarty, Anderson (maybe) with Heineman and one of Tuch / Florian Xhekaj or Mesar / Farrell / the forgotten Kidney who probably isn't a centre would give me some confidence on the wingers. The ideal pick for us to package would have been 26 but then we decided to move up to 21 and then we were able to get Hage (who might on his own end up being better than McGroarty and who was probably a player who should have been picked in the 13-18 range. All that to say that if Winnipeg had been interested in building a return around a mid-late first, I think we would have already made the trade. I don't really know what they want instead and whether that gels with what we can give up. I wouldn't trade a similar level prospect for him and then, as you said, risk that he just never signs here. My best offer would probably be a 2nd rounder + one of Barron, Mesar, Heineman, Tuch, or Harris.
There's some speculation the trade Hughes had lined up had Demidov not been available could have been for McGroarty - presumably it involved us overpaying a bit out of desperation for more forward depth in our pipeline (maybe involving Guhle?), so once we got Demidov, even though McGroaty could still make sense to acquire, it was no longer enough of a priority to overpay.
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Post by BigTed3 on Jul 3, 2024 11:07:37 GMT
The ideal pick for us to package would have been 26 but then we decided to move up to 21 and then we were able to get Hage (who might on his own end up being better than McGroarty and who was probably a player who should have been picked in the 13-18 range. All that to say that if Winnipeg had been interested in building a return around a mid-late first, I think we would have already made the trade. I don't really know what they want instead and whether that gels with what we can give up. I wouldn't trade a similar level prospect for him and then, as you said, risk that he just never signs here. My best offer would probably be a 2nd rounder + one of Barron, Mesar, Heineman, Tuch, or Harris. There's some speculation the trade Hughes had lined up had Demidov not been available could have been for McGroarty - presumably it involved us overpaying a bit out of desperation for more forward depth in our pipeline (maybe involving Guhle?), so once we got Demidov, even though McGroaty could still make sense to acquire, it was no longer enough of a priority to overpay. I'd be surprised if we were willing to give up 5 for McGroarty. He's still an unproven, unsigned commodity. I heard some rumors the Canes came close to a deal for a top 7 pick for Necas, and we know they had talks with Columbus about 4 as well as talks with us in general.
Ultimately, I'm not sure how a McGroarty becomes worth a top 5 pick given his situation where the Jets are somewhat forced to trade him AND on a timeline where eventually they just lose him for nothing. IMO, Guhle is worth more than McGroarty and I'd be surprised if we could have traded Guhle to Columbus for pick 4. Is McGroarty worth the same as some of the players we've seen picked top 5 in recent years? I wouldn't trade Reinbacher for him. I wouldn't trade Nemec or Jiricek or Gauthier or Mctavish for him. He's a recent 14th pick who's demanded a trade... IMO, that gets you a mid-1st round pick back plus or minus a slight change since he's progressed well, but no way I'd give up a top 10 pick for him. Pick 26 or pick 21 plus a prospect or young player would be the best offer I'd make, and to me, it's not really contingent on Demidov since we had multiple holes in our top 6 and they play different styles of game.
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