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Post by maasart on Dec 20, 2023 16:41:26 GMT
Will be interesting to see if any trades happen right after the freeze. We've had a number of teams scouting us (although its not immediately clear who they are scouting). I could see Hughes having a deal in place but not wanting to trade someone right before the holidays.
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Post by ChiLla on Dec 21, 2023 8:21:16 GMT
Will be interesting to see if any trades happen right after the freeze. We've had a number of teams scouting us (although its not immediately clear who they are scouting). I could see Hughes having a deal in place but not wanting to trade someone right before the holidays. Yeah, with all defensemen and goalies healthy, something will have to happen at some point. Sure, we can bury Xhekaj in the minors for now but it isn't ideal. And with the way Struble has stepped up, I wonder if Harris may end up being the odd man out. Unless Guhle is in play, who certainly has the highest perceived trade value at this point (outside of Matheson of course, but I doubt they really consider moving him). It's a bit of a conundrum, all 4 of Guhle, Xhekaj, Harris, and Struble have shown that they can at the very least keep up with NHLers, so does sending them down to the AHL really help their development?
I just read that Broberg could be available as a sweetener for anyone willing to take on Campbell. We obviously have no real need at LD and there's no team in this league that really wants Campbell, but let's have some fun and say we trade Allen to Edmonton for Campbell's contract plus Broberg and then swap Guhle+ for Zegras (as was suggested several times). It'll take some tinkering for sure and wouldn't really solve our current logjam at D, but we'd be able to add a scoring center plus Broberg, so losing Guhle would hurt a little less even though he's the better Dman right now. It probably won't happen anyway because I read it on TSN but it's a deal I'd be okay with in principle and it certainly fits Hughes' MO so far.
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Post by maasart on Dec 21, 2023 16:52:01 GMT
Will be interesting to see if any trades happen right after the freeze. We've had a number of teams scouting us (although its not immediately clear who they are scouting). I could see Hughes having a deal in place but not wanting to trade someone right before the holidays. Yeah, with all defensemen and goalies healthy, something will have to happen at some point. Sure, we can bury Xhekaj in the minors for now but it isn't ideal. And with the way Struble has stepped up, I wonder if Harris may end up being the odd man out. Unless Guhle is in play, who certainly has the highest perceived trade value at this point (outside of Matheson of course, but I doubt they really consider moving him). It's a bit of a conundrum, all 4 of Guhle, Xhekaj, Harris, and Struble have shown that they can at the very least keep up with NHLers, so does sending them down to the AHL really help their development?
I just read that Broberg could be available as a sweetener for anyone willing to take on Campbell. We obviously have no real need at LD and there's no team in this league that really wants Campbell, but let's have some fun and say we trade Allen to Edmonton for Campbell's contract plus Broberg and then swap Guhle+ for Zegras (as was suggested several times). It'll take some tinkering for sure and wouldn't really solve our current logjam at D, but we'd be able to add a scoring center plus Broberg, so losing Guhle would hurt a little less even though he's the better Dman right now. It probably won't happen anyway because I read it on TSN but it's a deal I'd be okay with in principle and it certainly fits Hughes' MO so far.
Agree. we're in a spot now where we need to probably make a bold move or two. I think the plan is still to add Hutson after this years's NCAA season is over. Its not inconceivable that Reinbacher could join us next year. We'll have Dach and Newhook back... thats a lot of young talent that will be added to a roster that is already overloaded at several positions. We have spots at forward but on d we likely need to make some room. At LD we have Matheson, Guhle, Struble, Harris, Xhekaj, and Hutson & Engstrom in the mix. Something has to give. At RD we arent as deep obviously but have some decent players (just no top end RH talent outside of Reinbacher). I still think moving Matheson and Savard makes the most sense. I know it will hurt in the short term but these are guys who clearly are not in our long term plans. Gonna be interesting to see how Hughes handles all of this.
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Post by regis on Dec 21, 2023 17:45:34 GMT
LD - do nothing , for now . There is No rush.. Evaluate the situation and prospects . Keep wifi in laval Send Harris there too When ready interchange them with Struble. They are all 3rd pairing D men anyhow And Struble has only played 13 games , who knows, maybe he regresses next year.
Hutson and engstrom they are a year or more away from being NHL ready IMO maybe they spend time in Laval Also
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Post by maasart on Dec 21, 2023 18:57:30 GMT
LD - do nothing , for now . There is No rush.. Evaluate the situation and prospects . Keep wifi in laval Send Harris there too When ready interchange them with Struble. They are all 3rd pairing D men anyhow And Struble has only played 13 games , who knows, maybe he regresses next year. Hutson and engstrom they are a year or more away from being NHL ready IMO I dont disagree with this, and i completely agree there is no rush. Its certainly one way to approach the situation but if there's an opportunity to either get a good package for Matheson (who is almost certainly not in our plans) or a way to get an elite 1st line centre (since i dont like our odds of drafting one) Id be exploring this in a major way.
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Post by claremont on Dec 21, 2023 20:44:50 GMT
LD - do nothing , for now . There is No rush.. Evaluate the situation and prospects . Keep wifi in laval Send Harris there too When ready interchange them with Struble. They are all 3rd pairing D men anyhow And Struble has only played 13 games , who knows, maybe he regresses next year. Hutson and engstrom they are a year or more away from being NHL ready IMO maybe they spend time in Laval Also You don't want to send Harris to Laval - he requires waivers, and would most likely get claimed - would not want to lose him for nothing as that would be just plain stupid! Barron, Struble and Xhekaj can go to Laval without requiring wiavers.
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Post by regis on Dec 21, 2023 20:56:52 GMT
LD - do nothing , for now . There is No rush.. Evaluate the situation and prospects . Keep wifi in laval Send Harris there too When ready interchange them with Struble. They are all 3rd pairing D men anyhow And Struble has only played 13 games , who knows, maybe he regresses next year. Hutson and engstrom they are a year or more away from being NHL ready IMO maybe they spend time in Laval Also You don't want to send Harris to Laval - he requires waivers, and would most likely get claimed - would not want to lose him for nothing as that would be just plain stupid! Barron, Struble and Xhekaj can go to Laval without requiring wiavers. I did not know that - well then send struble down There’s no need to make a rush trade
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Post by regis on Dec 22, 2023 7:09:17 GMT
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Post by BigTed3 on Dec 23, 2023 1:10:00 GMT
Pierre LeBrun says that both Carolina and New Jersey have had talks with the Habs about Jake Allen. Good for us if true... let the competition among contenders ramp up.
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Post by electron58 on Dec 23, 2023 1:17:10 GMT
Pierre LeBrun says that both Carolina and New Jersey have had talks with the Habs about Jake Allen. Good for us if true... let the competition among contenders ramp up. Maybe after Toronto 's last debacle of a game may be goalie shopping yet again. 😄
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Post by ChiLla on Dec 23, 2023 8:35:34 GMT
Pierre LeBrun says that both Carolina and New Jersey have had talks with the Habs about Jake Allen. Good for us if true... let the competition among contenders ramp up. Maybe after Toronto 's last debacle of a game may be goalie shopping yet again. 😄 I'd be okay with Allen for Knies, unless they want to give us Nylander of course
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Post by regis on Dec 28, 2023 0:53:45 GMT
www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nhl/canadiens-consider-david-savard-trade-amid-defensive-reshuffle/ar-AA1m7iQy?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=212174b87d0143c88e24bbba02a0d32d&ei=17Canadiens Consider David Savard Trade Amid Defensive Reshuffle Story by NHL Trade Talk • 4h According to Eric Engels of Sportsnet, at 33, defenseman David Savard stands as a stabilizing force for the Montreal Canadiens, but he might be a trade candidate this season. Savard brings a wealth of experience as a Stanley Cup winner, a dedicated shot-blocker, and a penalty-killing stalwart. However, it’s those same attributes that could make him a coveted target ahead of this season’s trade deadline. Despite Savard’s undeniable value to the Canadiens, the looming trade market may offer an opportunity too enticing to ignore. Engels writes, “The Canadiens are then going to have to seriously consider moving David Savard in short order.” So too, with no protection clauses in his contract, Savard becomes an attractive proposition for teams seeking more than a short-term rental. His remaining one-year contract, with a reasonable $3.5-million annual salary, opens up possibilities for teams willing to make a significant investment. The Canadiens face the challenge of balancing Savard’s contributions with the potential returns from a trade. And, because the team isn’t necessarily worried about replacing Savard immediately, the team might be better off getting a solid return while they can Canadiens Still a Developing Team That Needs Picks More than Savard Engels notes that the organization remains patient with the development of young talents like Jordan Harris, Aber Xhekaj, Jayden Struble, and Justin Barron. The plan is not to rush those prospects knowing they will eventually become valuable assets for the team’s future core. Because the Habs are taking a prudent approach, it allows the Canadiens to take their time with a Savard trade this season. The only rush is the looming trade deadline. It potentially adds urgency to the decision-making process, making Savard’s potential move a pivotal moment in the Canadiens’ strategic repositioning. Montreal is going to get a number of inquiries on the player. It’s likely that the team who steps up first could be the club that lands the defenseman in a deal.
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Post by maasart on Dec 28, 2023 18:31:11 GMT
www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nhl/canadiens-consider-david-savard-trade-amid-defensive-reshuffle/ar-AA1m7iQy?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=212174b87d0143c88e24bbba02a0d32d&ei=17Canadiens Consider David Savard Trade Amid Defensive Reshuffle Story by NHL Trade Talk • 4h According to Eric Engels of Sportsnet, at 33, defenseman David Savard stands as a stabilizing force for the Montreal Canadiens, but he might be a trade candidate this season. Savard brings a wealth of experience as a Stanley Cup winner, a dedicated shot-blocker, and a penalty-killing stalwart. However, it’s those same attributes that could make him a coveted target ahead of this season’s trade deadline. Despite Savard’s undeniable value to the Canadiens, the looming trade market may offer an opportunity too enticing to ignore. Engels writes, “The Canadiens are then going to have to seriously consider moving David Savard in short order.” So too, with no protection clauses in his contract, Savard becomes an attractive proposition for teams seeking more than a short-term rental. His remaining one-year contract, with a reasonable $3.5-million annual salary, opens up possibilities for teams willing to make a significant investment. The Canadiens face the challenge of balancing Savard’s contributions with the potential returns from a trade. And, because the team isn’t necessarily worried about replacing Savard immediately, the team might be better off getting a solid return while they can Canadiens Still a Developing Team That Needs Picks More than Savard Engels notes that the organization remains patient with the development of young talents like Jordan Harris, Aber Xhekaj, Jayden Struble, and Justin Barron. The plan is not to rush those prospects knowing they will eventually become valuable assets for the team’s future core. Because the Habs are taking a prudent approach, it allows the Canadiens to take their time with a Savard trade this season. The only rush is the looming trade deadline. It potentially adds urgency to the decision-making process, making Savard’s potential move a pivotal moment in the Canadiens’ strategic repositioning. Montreal is going to get a number of inquiries on the player. It’s likely that the team who steps up first could be the club that lands the defenseman in a deal. I still think the most likely guys to get moved are Monahan (UFA) and Savard (1 more year). I could see us fielding calls about Dvo and Armia (both 1 more year after this one). As much as we may want to move Gallagher, i think we're stuck with him. I think Anderson *may* get some interest if he can continue to score but he still has 3 years after this one. Matheson is real question mark for me. He's been elite in terms of dman scoring, he's great value at under $5m and he has 2 more cheap years after this one - but he's been streaky defensively and if we move him, our defense takes a big hit in terms of minute-munching. I also think Hughes really likes him. Gonna be an interesting couple of months, especially if we stay in the wildcard race. I thin
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Post by regis on Jan 1, 2024 2:52:23 GMT
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Post by electron58 on Jan 2, 2024 2:09:15 GMT
I think that one of David Savard or Mike Matheson gets moved. Definitely not both, this year anyway.
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Post by maasart on Jan 2, 2024 2:42:57 GMT
I would laugh if we traded Allen for Kotkaniemi
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Post by electron58 on Jan 3, 2024 5:12:22 GMT
According to Friedman, the Hurricanes, who have explored avenues and started serious discussions with Hughes and the Habs, could consider trading Michael Bunting for a goalie. Not interested.......
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Post by ChiLla on Jan 3, 2024 9:37:02 GMT
According to Friedman, the Hurricanes, who have explored avenues and started serious discussions with Hughes and the Habs, could consider trading Michael Bunting for a goalie. Not interested....... I don't like the guy but he's ok as a player, yet not really what this team needs I think, especially not at 4.5$/year.
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Post by maasart on Jan 3, 2024 22:26:10 GMT
According to Friedman, the Hurricanes, who have explored avenues and started serious discussions with Hughes and the Habs, could consider trading Michael Bunting for a goalie. Not interested....... I don't like the guy but he's ok as a player, yet not really what this team needs I think, especially not at 4.5$/year. Unless they are taking back Armia with Allen, Id say no. He's got skill but too close to that line for me. Maybe he's better now, i havent watched him much but I dont love the idea of him on this team even if the deal is fair.
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Post by HTL on Jan 3, 2024 22:28:29 GMT
According to Friedman, the Hurricanes, who have explored avenues and started serious discussions with Hughes and the Habs, could consider trading Michael Bunting for a goalie. Not interested....... I don't like the guy but he's ok as a player, yet not really what this team needs I think, especially not at 4.5$/year. Going to take at least a few years to rid him of that blue stink. It's a pass for me.
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