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Post by ramcharger440 on Aug 16, 2024 13:50:06 GMT
Some of the clickbait sites out there are getting pretty stupid!
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Post by regis on Aug 17, 2024 18:17:27 GMT
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Post by BigTed3 on Aug 23, 2024 19:47:13 GMT
Max Pacioretty reportedly has offers from 3 teams that he's reviewing. I've said this before, but he's one UFA I think the Habs could/should be in on, if it's a 1-year, low-AAV, incentive-laden contract. He's a player you could flip at the deadline if you need to, and he brings a bit of veteran leadership and knowledge of Montreal to a young room.
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Post by ramcharger440 on Aug 23, 2024 20:08:59 GMT
Max Pacioretty reportedly has offers from 3 teams that he's reviewing. I've said this before, but he's one UFA I think the Habs could/should be in on, if it's a 1-year, low-AAV, incentive-laden contract. He's a player you could flip at the deadline if you need to, and he brings a bit of veteran leadership and knowledge of Montreal to a young room. Do you really think he would want to come back here? Perhaps but I don't think he would.
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Post by regis on Aug 23, 2024 20:48:58 GMT
Iβll pass on max . Heβll be 36 in November . He would serve no purpose IMO other than take a spot away from some8ne else
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Post by maasart on Aug 23, 2024 22:04:01 GMT
Max Pacioretty reportedly has offers from 3 teams that he's reviewing. I've said this before, but he's one UFA I think the Habs could/should be in on, if it's a 1-year, low-AAV, incentive-laden contract. He's a player you could flip at the deadline if you need to, and he brings a bit of veteran leadership and knowledge of Montreal to a young room. I guess it comes down to whether we think are going to move anyone else. Right now we have: Slaf - Suzuki - CC Laine - Dach - Roy/Anderson Armia - Newhook - Gallagher Evans - Dvo - Anderson/Roy Pez Guys like Beck, Farrel, Kapanen, Heineman, Tuch, Kidney who all could surprise at camp & there's RHP who wont be out forever... its not a lot of room for a guy like patches.
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Post by regis on Aug 26, 2024 0:49:42 GMT
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Post by maasart on Aug 26, 2024 16:40:36 GMT
It would be interesting to know how interested hughes really was. I suspect he would kick tires on anyone that is available and goal, especially, is such a volatile position, who knows if Fowler or Monty or Primeau will turn into somehting special? Adding another guy like Askarov would have been playing the numbers for sure. Sounds like we balked at trading Beck (which probably is around FMV) so that tells me we probably didnt have much interest in acquiring him unless it was for a deep discount. I didnt think Nashville was really dealing from a position of power & was surprised they got Edstrom & a 1st for him tbh.
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Post by habsalways on Aug 26, 2024 21:34:01 GMT
Max Pacioretty reportedly has offers from 3 teams that he's reviewing. I've said this before, but he's one UFA I think the Habs could/should be in on, if it's a 1-year, low-AAV, incentive-laden contract. He's a player you could flip at the deadline if you need to, and he brings a bit of veteran leadership and knowledge of Montreal to a young room. Patches - DVO - Gallagher for slowest line in the east
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Post by regis on Aug 28, 2024 15:04:20 GMT
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Post by maasart on Aug 28, 2024 18:26:46 GMT
I just dont see offer sheets working very often. In Mercer's case he's intriguing but took a step backwards last year. I think its a blip and im sure he'll recover but he's not the elite talent I would sell the farm for. he'd be a great complimentary player but I think the only way an offer sheet works is if its a massive overpayment & I wouldnt do that for Mercer.
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Post by claremont on Aug 28, 2024 20:19:16 GMT
I just dont see offer sheets working very often. In Mercer's case he's intriguing but took a step backwards last year. I think its a blip and im sure he'll recover but he's not the elite talent I would sell the farm for. he'd be a great complimentary player but I think the only way an offer sheet works is if its a massive overpayment & I wouldnt do that for Mercer. Article says "No Negatives on an offer sheet for Mercer" - IMO ludicrous. if we offered him at $4.58 AAV - only a 2nd round pick - I would consider that but New Jersey has the cap room to easily match that so it's a stupid offer. Next threshold above that to $6.87M is a 1st and 3rd and Mercer despite being 18th overall pick and capable of 20-25 goals and 45-50 points is not worth that. Besides in 2 of the 3 years he played, he is plus / minus was -25 and I did not even bother looking at Corsi Stats. Now is not the time to be making that kind of bold move. There's better values out there, and not sure we have a rush at Centre until we see what the 2C spot becomes (Dach or Newhook?), Beck's potential as a 3C. I doubt DVO has a breakout season and is worth extending for 2 years (doubt he takes that offer), but we do need some form of future C depth until Hage arrives. I suspect we can make that decision next off season.
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Post by regis on Sept 18, 2024 14:09:05 GMT
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Post by ramcharger440 on Sept 18, 2024 15:00:27 GMT
That would be silly! trade an established offensive threat Dman for a prospect who has done nothing since the draft....... I think we dodged a bullet there! time will tell on that one!
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Post by maasart on Sept 18, 2024 15:25:54 GMT
That would be silly! trade an established offensive threat Dman for a prospect who has done nothing since the draft....... I think we dodged a bullet there! time will tell on that one! I do think that Wright will be a quality NHLer but more like a good 2nd line centre. Is he worth Matheson? Maybe... but its not really what we need. I also dont thing Hughes would have interest there. I think we will definitely be looking to move MM some time in the next couple of years but the return would have to be pretty high & I dont think Wright is the guy. With Suzuki, Dach, Hage and Beck we have a number of good, young, quality centres. Honestly, if we were trading Matheson for a young player/prospect Id want a RHD or a top end winger.
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Post by ramcharger440 on Sept 18, 2024 15:43:06 GMT
Wright is wrong! He should be in the NHL by now.
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Post by regis on Sept 18, 2024 17:22:55 GMT
If the fellows suggestion was to give up matheson for Wright , I would rather get a player who can play in the NHL now , and not another reclamation ( ? ) project
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Post by maasart on Sept 18, 2024 21:30:07 GMT
If the fellows suggestion was to give up matheson for Wright , I would rather get a player who can play in the NHL now , and not another reclamation ( ? ) project For sure. I do think that the cost for Wright is probably around the range of a matheson type player but its not the right fit for us at all (and id be shocked if Hughes did that). Honestly if we do move Matheson i think it will be for another 2019-2020 drafted prospect who is ready to make an impact like Dach or CC etc. I could see us moving him for a 1st rounder + player if we didnt get a high enough talent though.
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Post by claremont on Sept 18, 2024 23:27:52 GMT
If the fellows suggestion was to give up matheson for Wright , I would rather get a player who can play in the NHL now , and not another reclamation ( ? ) project For sure.Β I do think that the cost for Wright is probably around the range of a matheson type player but its not the right fit for us at all (and id be shocked if Hughes did that). Honestly if we do move Matheson i think it will be for another 2019-2020 drafted prospect who is ready to make an impact like Dach or CC etc.Β I could see us moving him for a 1st rounder + player if we didnt get a high enough talent though.Β We are at the stage where if we move Matheson, we are desiring a solid young roster player in return. The prospect pool and draft capital of picks (2 firsts, 2 2nds next year, 1 first, 2 2nds the next) is reasonably deep. I expect we should get some picks for Dvorak or Savard if not Armia, so high risk high reward players (reclamation projects) are not likely to be the return for those. HuGo have a penchant for more mature prospects so I believe Matheson will get at least a Dach / Newhook type roster player at some needed position.
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Post by RCAF48 on Sept 19, 2024 0:56:46 GMT
Interesting to read that Wright is considered a reclamation type project. He is only 20 years old and of the 2022 top 3 drafted forwards he was the only one (being Canadian) to lose a full year of development hockey (the entire 20/21 season) so while his development has taken place at the CHL/AHL level instead of the NHL I don't consider him a reclamation project. Towards the end of last season he was called up for a 5 game trial; as 3rd/4th line centre he scored 4 goals and had a plus 3 rating. Seattle then sent him back to Coachella, as planned, so he could participate in his second straight play-off run to the Calder Cup final. He should be a roster player this year and could produce very good rookie year numbers.
I do agree that he will never be a fit in Montreal. There were a myriad of reasons why we passed on him but in hindsight I think it was in both parties best interest.
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